Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
This year it's been: Phoenix to San Diego and back, Phoenix to Houston, Houston to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Guatemala City, Guatemala City to San Salvador, San Salvador to Medellin, Medellin to Bogota to Villavicencio, Bogota to Fort Lauderdale, Fort Lauderdale to Greenville South Carolina, Asheville NC to Phoenix. All on either Frontier, Spirit, Avianca, or Jet Blue.
And that's pretty typical for me. I flew United last year from
The following flights sound like they'd be full:
Phoenix to San Diego and back
Phoenix to Houston
Houston to Fort Lauderdale
Fort Lauderdale to Greenville I can see some empty seats. Greenville airport is quite nice BTW.
No idea about the Central American flights.
I haven't flown internationally since last year, Newark to Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv back to Detroit. Zero empty seats.
The following flights sound like they'd be full:
Phoenix to San Diego and back
Phoenix to Houston
Houston to Fort Lauderdale
Fort Lauderdale to Greenville I can see some empty seats. Greenville airport is quite nice BTW.
No idea about the Central American flights.
I haven't flown internationally since last year, Newark to Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv back to Detroit. Zero empty seats.
Yeah Greenville is nice although it can expensive to fly there so I've been using Asheville a lot more-- and Asheville is one of the podunkiest airports there is.
Anyway, amusing anacdote aside, I wasn't trying to make it about me. Anyone reasonable who lives in flats knows the solution is to tolerate each others being soemwwhat annoying a bit of the time. Too much of it or too unreasonable an activity and it's a big problem. Demanding we all dont do it all is not a good answer.
I have mentioned several times, very clearly, that I do not mod this subforum and I am a poster here. I have not censored jbouton's posts once. I have requested to have several of them moved to a conspiracy thread, but so far I have been denied each time.
you are soft modding and crossnerd already knows that I said that you have taken me out of context again, you weren't accusssed of what you are denying here. I didn't say these things. I didn't say were modding with mod powers. I said you were guarding and soft modding, and there a ton of evidence of it that exists that got deleted.
This grand 2p2 conspiracy is pure cope. Last time I said what I'm about to say it was interpreted as "ad homineming" but that's just a similar coping mechanism. I am going to say it again, I understand it sucks to hear but it is the truth and should be heard: jbouton you are not a good communicator. The first post of yours I can recall was you posting a youtube debate you had where you complained that "the audience didn't understand the poi
What I'm saying is clear. A thread in a conflict between two parties implies two views. You don't believe that and you won't let others believe it. So the rules are obvious sourceless western propaganda stands and sources that go against the lies you perpetuate get deleted. Its quite obvious you are spread lies and all I'm asking for is to be able to counter them.
This problem has occurred multiple times, in multiple different subforums. jbouton attempts to communicate in an ineffective way, people don't know wtf he's saying and they request the noise gets brought down. The noise gets brought down, and jbouton complains about being singled out. He continues posting in the same way, pissing off more posters, who report jbouton quicker now and he's put on an even shorter leash. This is viewed as furthe
You changed the bitcoin thread so I'm not allowed to post it in. We all know I'm by far the most knowledgeable person on the subject and its an obvious security leak that I can't participate in the thread. .
The other about BGP the most obvious recent one, was I posted a video and BGP followed it to a different thread to say the speaker is a child molester.
links please jb
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
Just a heads up that Scott Ritter is a convicted child sex offender who fled to Russia to become a propaganda outlet.
RT is a Russian funded propaganda outlet
You understand thats an ad hominem right?
I understand ad hominems are everywhere on this site but this mod is follow me with them. My post isn't invalid because BGP doesn't like its narrative.
The best thing to do for airplane seating is to board the plane last, regardless of which boarding group you are in.
Most flights aren't full and you can usually find your pick of seats up front and sometimes entire sections of seats.
I must be flying the wrong routes. 98% of the flights I take are full.
You understand thats an ad hominem right?
I understand ad hominems are everywhere on this site but this mod is follow me with them. My post isn't invalid because BGP doesn't like its narrative.
Someone criticizing your source doesn't amount to an ad hominem attack against you.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
You understand thats an ad hominem right?
I understand ad hominems are everywhere on this site but this mod is follow me with them. My post isn't invalid because BGP doesn't like its narrative.
i normally side with you but no post stemming from a blatant propaganda source like RT, Global Times, Epoch Times, Washington Times, etc should ever be given any consideration
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
You understand thats an ad hominem right?
I understand ad hominems are everywhere on this site but this mod is follow me with them. My post isn't invalid because BGP doesn't like its narrative.
I can see why you’d be frustrated by that, but from a moderation perspective if I may, what he’s saying is factual- Scott Ritter *is* a convicted child sex offender. That may not invalidate your argument necessarily depending on context, but it could reasonable invalidate anything claimed by Scott Ritter.
I’m just saying that it’s a disagreement that can’t be moderated. You have to just disagree back with it or state your reasoning.
I can see why you’d be frustrated by that, but from a moderation perspective if I may, what he’s saying is factual- Scott Ritter *is* a convicted child sex offender. That may not invalidate your argument necessarily depending on context, but it could reasonable invalidate anything claimed by Scott Ritter.
I’m just saying that it’s a disagreement that can’t be moderated. You have to just disagree back with it or
Its a 3 year history of this. And you are right DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT AND THE CONTEXT. And it wasn't considered.
Why wasn't it considered, because BGP made sure of it.
I am busy but will try to moderate this thread more closely for a while. Insinuating that BGP controls this thread in some way is false and not allowed. Saying that Russia was provoked into invading Ukraine is false and not allowed, short of some new facts or actual intelligent analysis. To JBouton more specifically, making posts which continually hint at some argument but never make the argument is akin to trolling in my view as you aren't
^^^ this. I'm not allowed to point it out. But I'm also not allow to put forth the counter narrative to BGP's lies.
I posted facts. I posted an interview with jeffery sachs. Thats what ganstaman is responding to here.
I didn't hint at an argument either thats a lie. Russia was absolutely provoked the sachs interview explains it.
We need to be allowed to discuss it so we can show the mainstream narrative is a lie.
i normally side with you but no post stemming from a blatant propaganda source like RT, Global Times, Epoch Times, Washington Times, etc should ever be given any consideration
Its ONE example. And RT has history been our only source of counter new which is OBVIOUSLY critical to free society (counter news)
You aren't capable of being a mod. If I put up content, its not invald simply because the puerson is a convicted child molester.
IT CERTAILY isn't invalid just because BGP SAYS its by a convicted child molestor.
That is an AD HOMINEM based argument and you CLEARLY don't understand the basic concept of modding. That makes TON of sense.
Don't worry about all that, bouton, Rococo is clearly part of the grand 2p2 conspiracy. Let's focus on the real issue here - we need to know how your absence from the bitcoin thread poses an obvious security threat.
I don't have a place for recourse, for not being allowed to post in the bitcoin thread.
all I can do is complain in front of a group that most knows me. And point out how fishy it is that I'm one of the most trusted persons in the industry, and one of the most knowledgeable, and yet my posts are 100% "off topic" on the subject.
I don't have a place for recourse, for not being allowed to post in the bitcoin thread.
all I can do is complain in front of a group that most knows me.
I can certainly see how the bolded would constitute a severe handicap.
And point out how fishy it is that I'm one of the most trusted persons in the industry, and one of the most knowledgeable, and yet my posts are 100% "off topic" on the subject.
Can we get an industry source to corroborate your credentials?
Also, I am not seeing how any of this is an obvious security threat. What security has been compromised, and how?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
You understand thats an ad hominem right?
I understand ad hominems are everywhere on this site but this mod is follow me with them. My post isn't invalid because BGP doesn't like its narrative.
I think ad hominems against child molestors who aren't on this forum should be allowed.
Bouton, can you tell us about the issue of obvious compromised security please? It has me very concerned.
