2024 Fantasy Football Thread

2024 Fantasy Football Thread

Welcome to the 2024 fantasy season, where I'm officially addicted to best ball. I've been drafting since the end of January. Through 95 drafts, my exposures are below. The player order is based on current ADP. Some of these ADPs have been quite fluid over the last 3 months, with FAs and rookies moving the most. Most of my exposures are structurally driven, rather than player take driven. Especially at this point in the game, pre-draft.

But there are some players I simply couldn't avoid going heavy on, like McBride and Andrews in the 5th round. I'm actually quite heavy all of the top TEs, minus LaPorta and Kincaid. I also tried to make sure I had at least 1 TE by the end of round 8, with Ferguson being the last of the group.

Also took approaches like attacking Nabers and Odunze harder than MHJ, at their relative prices.

What do we like and not like?






Rookie season is also upon us. Redraft is still 3.5 months away from heating up, but there will be rookie drafts, dynasty startups, and best ball drafts leading up until then.

Good luck to all, and may injuries and variance be kind.

25 April 2024 at 04:46 PM
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Week 14 might be somewhat important for correlation since you want to do well enough to finish top 2 in your group to ensure a spot in the playoffs, but I don't think it's necessary to go overboard.


The first 14 weeks carry equal weight, so I don’t think week 14 is anymore important than week 1 and even if it somehow was, you’d still be in the same situation as week 15 & 16 except playing against worse teams in 14


by jimmymcgill8 P

I think by the time you end up in the situation of having those 3 shitty QBs, you just have to bet on them way out performing expectations and correlate with them. Don’t think grabbing a 4th shitty qb uncorrelated does anything. Especially on only 18 player rosters.

Maybe. I get your argument and get the idea of stacking, but at the same time I kind of think that it could be the sort of situation where everyone is doing the same thing and it's perceived as the thing to do, but the counter is to do something different. I could understand it more if you were going with injury away RBs to shoot for the fences, but that seems less of a thing at WR where if someone is low it's because of legit concerns as to production rather than that they are being blocked by a better back


Qb : Kyler , Levis

Rb : Etienne , Kamara , Mostert , Robinson jr , Tracy , Estime

Wr : Harrison , Pula , Pittman , Ridley , Cooks, Johnston , Pop Douglas , Demarcus Robinson , Slayton , Rondale

Te : Goedart, Muth


by Dgoat P

Qb : Kyler , Levis

Rb : Etienne , Kamara , Mostert , Robinson jr , Tracy , Estime

Wr : Harrison , Pula , Pittman , Ridley , Cooks, Johnston , Pop Douglas , Demarcus Robinson , Slayton , Rondale

Te : Goedart, Muth

Like this team a lot

Kyler/Levis is probably a 3qb build but it can go either way


I had a huge mental lapse and drafted wicks instead of downs bc I was so excited purdy fell 20 spots past ADP, that I forgot I had to stack AR too haha

Bbm

Qb - AR, Purdy

Rb - Mondre, Najee, Brob, Allgeier, Eli Mitchell

Wr - London, Aiyuk, Dell, Flowers, Wicks, Mooney, Raymond, Slayton

Te - Kittle, Bowers, Woods


by Dgoat P

Qb : Kyler , Levis

Rb : Etienne , Kamara , Mostert , Robinson jr , Tracy , Estime

Wr : Harrison , Pula , Pittman , Ridley , Cooks, Johnston , Pop Douglas , Demarcus Robinson , Slayton , Rondale

Te : Goedart, Muth

Maybe take D Jones instead of Rondale would be better or maybe not take Estime. He'd correlate nicely with Slayton, Tracy and Pittman. I'm not sure where Dimes is going in Draft Kings these days. Your top 4 RBs are solid enough.

Everything else looks very good.

I love Levis as a late round QB. They are going to throw a ton there. He has great weapons and no Henry. I would expect him to be playing from behind a lot. There should be some shoot outs in that division as well.


by jimmymcgill8 P

I had a huge mental lapse and drafted wicks instead of downs bc I was so excited purdy fell 20 spots past ADP, that I forgot I had to stack AR too haha

Bbm

Qb - AR, Purdy

Rb - Mondre, Najee, Brob, Allgeier, Eli Mitchell

Wr - London, Aiyuk, Dell, Flowers, Wicks, Mooney, Raymond, Slayton

Te - Kittle, Bowers, Woods

Like this team . Don’t think a 3rd te was necessary but I understand you were stacking


by jimmymcgill8 P

I had a huge mental lapse and drafted wicks instead of downs bc I was so excited purdy fell 20 spots past ADP, that I forgot I had to stack AR too haha

Bbm

Qb - AR, Purdy

Rb - Mondre, Najee, Brob, Allgeier, Eli Mitchell

Wr - London, Aiyuk, Dell, Flowers, Wicks, Mooney, Raymond, Slayton

Te - Kittle, Bowers, Woods

I think Wicks has a better year and I don't think unstacked AR is the end of the world. Obviously it's preferable to stack. Shane Steichen has talked about how it may be a different receiver each week getting the targets. He included Alec Pierce in this group. You might be better off going Wicks and letting Jelani be the stack partner given the potential lack of condensed targets.

Kittle/Bowers is my favorite TE combination. You know Kittle will have massive games and some duds. Bowers should provide some consistency with some spike weeks. You have an elite TE room without the elite TE cost.

I like being done early with two QBs and two TE's if the draft goes the right way. Then you just smash WRs and RBs.


by mongidig P

I think Wicks has a better year and I don't think unstacked AR is the end of the world. Obviously it's preferable to stack. Shane Steichen has talked about how it may be a different receiver each week getting the targets. He included Alec Pierce in this group. You might be better off going Wicks and letting Jelani be the stack partner given the potential lack of condensed targets.

But Wicks has the same problem, except worse. GB has more target competition than the Colts, and it's still most likely that Wicks is 4th in the WR pecking order, not even including the TEs or backs. I don't take much of Wicks (or Doubs), although I did today when Wicks fell 19 spots past ADP. I take a good amount of of Mitchell/Downs, with about half my shares of each stacked with AR.

I think Pierce will be the odd man out as the season goes on, as I think it's likely he's simply a replacement level WR at this point. Even if so, that'll benefit AD more than Downs. Downs won't be competing directly with Pierce for snaps. I'm hoping the Colts run a lot of 11 personnel with their **** TE room, which would be great for Downs in the slot.

Also, last call to everyone for the Mini Schnauzer fasts. The 3 and 4 are full. The 5 is 60% filled and filling quickly with the other two already filed.


by newguyhere P

Been doing a lot of research on the rookies, and saw something I thought was interesting in Malik Washington's scouting report.

Highlighted portion makes it sound like he'll fit in perfectly with Miami's offense.



Ended up with 4 QBs because Jones fell to me in the 18th, Hyatt was right there, and I think Fields > Russ at this stage but who knows how long it'll take Tomlin to realize.


QB - Hurts, Caleb, Fields, Dimes

RB - Zamir, Brooks, Pollard, Zeke, Wright

WR - CD, Deebo, Devonta, Odunze, Gabe, Roman, Hyatt, Ainias

TE - Kincaid, Sinnott, Okonkwo


by newguyhere P

Ended up with 4 QBs because Jones fell to me in the 18th, Hyatt was right there, and I think Fields > Russ at this stage but who knows how long it'll take Tomlin to realize.


QB - Hurts, Caleb, Fields, Dimes

RB - Zamir, Brooks, Pollard, Zeke, Wright

WR - CD, Deebo, Devonta, Odunze, Gabe, Roman, Hyatt, Ainias

TE - Kincaid, Sinnott, Okonkwo

Nice team. I don’t think you needed 3 qbs let alone 4 lol


Yeah, falling QB value in the 18th round only really matters if you're desperate or hoping to stack that guy specifically. It's likely to just be a wasted roster spot on this team. I would have rather have had a 6th RB.


by tarheels2222 P

But Wicks has the same problem, except worse. GB has more target competition than the Colts, and it's still most likely that Wicks is 4th in the WR pecking order, not even including the TEs or backs. I don't take much of Wicks (or Doubs), although I did today when Wicks fell 19 spots past ADP. I take a good amount of of Mitchell/Downs, with about half my shares of each stacked with AR.

I think Pierce will be the odd man out as the seaso

I see it differently from you regarding Wicks. I see an ambiguous WR room that doesn't necessarily have an alpha. I see a player who had a highly productive rookie year. I see a player who's metrics are comparable to a lot of the guy's going several rounds ahead of him. Green Bay is going to throw the ball way more than the Colts. Love is a much better passer than AR. I'm betting on the unknown of Wicks. I feel like he is an ascending player. Downs is a fine talent but this offense isn't going to support production from multiple pass catchers each week. Both of these players will probably require an injury ahead of them in order to really pay off.

They seem to be going close together in drafts so it probably won't make that much of a difference who you take.


by tarheels2222 P

Yeah, falling QB value in the 18th round only really matters if you're desperate or hoping to stack that guy specifically. It's likely to just be a wasted roster spot on this team. I would have rather have had a 6th RB.

This early in best ball it makes sense to wait until the later rounds to grab your second or third QB if you have a solid starter. A lot of the late round flyers we are throwing darts at are gonna end up being zeros. Why not grab a QB who you feel pretty good about providing points for your team in this range. As we get closer to the season we will have more information to be able to make good speculative late round non QB selections. The same can be true for TE's as well.


Got sniped on Hurts so pivoted to Lamar

Qb - Lamar, Cousins

Rb - Najee, Zamir, Javonte, Zeke, B Allen, Pierce

Wr - AJB, Olave, Flowers, Rice, Meyers, Bateman, LMC, Rondale

Te - Pitts, Schultz


I went a little nutso on the NE guy's. Too much?

I got my first Nick Chubb.

QB) Prescott, Maye

RB) Barkley, Montgomery, Conner, Elliot, Chubb, Gibson.

WR) Lamb, Deebo, Terry, Ladd, Cooks, Polk, D Douglas, J Baker

TE) Mcbride, Gesicki


by jimmymcgill8 P

Got sniped on Hurts so pivoted to Lamar

Qb - Lamar, Cousins

Rb - Najee, Zamir, Javonte, Zeke, B Allen, Pierce

Wr - AJB, Olave, Flowers, Rice, Meyers, Bateman, LMC, Rondale

Te - Pitts, Schultz

Love this team. No critiques .


by mongidig P

I went a little nutso on the NE guy's. Too much?

I got my first Nick Chubb.

QB) Prescott, Maye

RB) Barkley, Montgomery, Conner, Elliot, Chubb, Gibson.

WR) Lamb, Deebo, Terry, Ladd, Cooks, Polk, D Douglas, J Baker

TE) Mcbride, Gesicki

You have enough top end guys here that it’s ok to go nuts on the Pats stack . Like this team too


regarding dk/ud best ball large field drafts, how much is collusion a concern? could easily see it being worth it for teams to go splitsies on a 12 man draft where you prop up one super team. even if the sites are policing for blatant cases, seems this could be a concern even doing it more subtly when all the money is up top.


by smartDFS P

regarding dk/ud best ball large field drafts, how much is collusion a concern? could easily see it being worth it for teams to go splitsies on a 12 man draft where you prop up one super team. even if the sites are policing for blatant cases, seems this could be a concern even doing it more subtly when all the money is up top.

I’d say it’s pretty hard to get 12 guys in one draft and if it’s blatant like you said they’d get caught .


by mongidig P

I see it differently from you regarding Wicks. I see an ambiguous WR room that doesn't necessarily have an alpha. I see a player who had a highly productive rookie year. I see a player who's metrics are comparable to a lot of the guy's going several rounds ahead of him. Green Bay is going to throw the ball way more than the Colts. Love is a much better passer than AR. I'm betting on the unknown of Wicks. I feel like he is an ascending playe


The Packers and Colts WRs are two areas where I don't really see it like consensus does.

GB:

1. I don't think the WR room is ambiguous. I think when healthy, Reed, Watson, and Doubs are clearly the top 3 WRs and that Wicks will struggle to even see 50% of the snaps in a given week. With that said, I do have an issue with Reed's price since he is primarily a slot/manufactured touch guy, and even though he's a damn good player, I think his role will be inconsistent week to week. However, he could also see a year 2 leap where they simply make a point to use him more.

2. Wicks showed flashes last year, but I wouldn't exactly call it highly productive. He had a couple of decent games, primarily because of injuries to other receivers. And while his advanced metrics, charting, etc. show a good player, a lot of times those profiles lose efficiency as they gain more volume and create more film for defenses to attack. I'm not saying the numbers don't matter, but the sample size is small.

3. GB figured something out halfway through last season, but Love was not very good the first half of the year. We're assuming that carries over, and I'm willing to bet it does, but there is more downside to Love's play than people want to remember.

4. My main problem with Wicks is taking him ahead of guys like Jeudy, Cooks, Gabe, Jakobi, etc. Those guys are all better bets to see more snaps and more routes than Wicks.

5. Watson will be my most drafted Packer WR. I'll probably have something like 5% Reed, 12% Watson, 4% Doubs, 2% Wicks. I need to find a way to mix Musgrave in a little more, but I'm usually not looking for TE in his ADP range, especially if he's unstacked and not correlated. Doubs is also kind of the same. I should try to get more than 4%, especially if I think he's clearly in the top 3, but I'm usually attacking RB/TE/QB in his ADP range.

Indy:

1. I expect them to be one of the highest play total teams in the league, pushing towards 70 offensive plays per game. So even if the total rush plays are a higher percentage of the pie, there is still a world where AR averages 30+ pass attempts per game. He had 37 attempts in his first ever NFL game. GB for comparison was in the bottom half of the league and ran 61.5 offensive plays per game last year. I think that's how LaFleur prefers it.

2. I feel very good playing this team through Mitchell and Downs, who are both players the front office and coaching staff were ecstatic to draft. Obviously, Minshew and AR are going to create different offensive environments, but Downs had a damn good start to his rookie season. Then he injured his knee and was never quite the same. He is great a getting open, which is going to be helpful to a QB who will move around in the pocket. Both receivers are great best ball profiles.

3. I'll probably aim to have something like 4% Pittman, 12% Mitchell, 10% Downs.

by mongidig P

This early in best ball it makes sense to wait until the later rounds to grab your second or third QB if you have a solid starter. A lot of the late round flyers we are throwing darts at are gonna end up being zeros. Why not grab a QB who you feel pretty good about providing points for your team in this range. As we get closer to the season we will have more information to be able to make good speculative late round non QB selections. The s

Right, but if I'm taking my second or third QB in the 18th round, then I'm either desperate or I set up that stack. Which I do quite a bit, for the reasons you listed. He didn't need to add Dimes as a 4th QB, especially with his top QB being Hurts. QB is the one position where I simply won't scoop falling ADP value if it doesn't make sense for my roster.


Finally took Allen only because he fell 10 spots past ADP.


QB - Allen, Dimes, Nix

RB - Brooks, Pollard, Zeke, Lloyd, McLaughlin, Guerendo, Sermon

WR - Chase, Waddle, Nabers, Coleman, Odunze, Williams, Mims, Hyatt

TE - Kincaid, Musgrave


by newguyhere P

Finally took Allen only because he fell 10 spots past ADP.


QB - Allen, Dimes, Nix

RB - Brooks, Pollard, Zeke, Lloyd, McLaughlin, Guerendo, Sermon

WR - Chase, Waddle, Nabers, Coleman, Odunze, Williams, Mims, Hyatt

TE - Kincaid, Musgrave

Strong team. I prolly take a rb over one of your backup qbs though .


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