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legit lol'd
Big Nance waffling.
Is it JOEver?
i thought joever was like, joe-ever, as in joe forever
it should be jover
the progressives will 100% be the ones blamed for biden inevitably losing no matter what happens, so i think her and AOC are smart to come out and say they are following the nominee and Biden is the nominee. right now. so they at least have receipts that the centrists will still handwave away when they try to move more right in order to appeal to MAGA voters...
yeah the theory going around is that the progressives have been silent/supportive on biden because he's gonna get got by the people in the party who actually have power, so it'd just be counterproductive for them to get involved*, but occams razor is brandon will stay in and get the entire party absolutely wiped out and this is example #7890445 of yank "progressives" getting played and/or raging in service of the machine
* and like why would these freaks ever do them a favour? they literally never have before, don't see any reason why they'd start now. again occams razor is they want them to shut up because they want them to shut up, not to help them lmao
progressives are liberals. so they are just trying to play both sides and then will move towards the fascists when necessary. thats what AOC is doing and in 40 years she will be the next Pelosi.
Thus the old joke: scratch a Progressive and a liberal, whom you then scratch and is revealed to be a fascist, bleeds.
yeah her dream is to be a feckless loser like pelosi, but they'll shank her long before that ever happens, so she'll have done all this for nothing. well, she'll probably get rich anyway, so there's that
AOC has caved to the worthless performative bullshit that is the house
And then there’s sleepy
I kinda give up
"Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"
Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over."
ah yes the enlightened centrist here to once again remind us that there's basically no difference between say doing a genocide and not doing a genocide. ty 4 ur service
holy **** it finally happened
Spoiler
Spoiler
yhtsi
never go FULL pelosi
Clooney writes that the president's decline is not an illusion; it’s real. He points to a Los Angeles fundraiser he threw for the president last month. “The Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe... of 2010,” he writes. “He wasn’t even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate.”
The president is not up to the task of beating Donald Trump in November, Clooney continues. He calls the Biden campaign’s claim that he is the choice of Democratic primary voters “disingenuous, at best”. And, perhaps most devastating, he says every prominent Democrat he has spoken with knows all this – whether they’re willing to publicly admit it or not.
ok, it's probably joever. he can do his little press conference today about how much he loves nato, try to get out of there after answering 2 questions without issue, fail miserably and **** his pants, and then **** off to die in a hole somewhere. rip bozo
though it would be very funny of him to refuse to leave and tank the entire party and doom the world, so i'd be down for that too. the next 4 months would be hilarious, anyway
Lololololol
makes good points
take that, nato
That's bad, but it's basically just confusing two related names. It could happen to anyone. It's not like he called Kamala Harris "Vice President Trump"
Spoiler
I'm being told he also did that...
DNC chair said Jello-brain Joe gave a "masterclass on complex foreign policy issues" tonight. Gonna be some stimulating discussions at whatever nursing home slash concentration camp they assign him to. Maybe he'll go head to head with Hilldawg on foreign policy wonk meowchow to the great amusement of the other prisoners.
Kamala now the betting fave to be the nominee
