Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

Moderation Questions and General Chat Thread

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by PointlessWords P

Exactly what it looks like. A post

Oh. My condolences.


by Luckbox Inc P

ChatGPT

Do you know what the website twoplustwo is?
ChatGPT
Yes, TwoPlusTwo (often stylized as 2+2) is a well-known online forum and website primarily focused on poker. It was established by Mason Malmuth, a prolific poker author and publisher. The site features discussions on various aspects of poker, including strategy, hand analysis, and news. Additionally, TwoPlusTwo has forums dedicated to other topics such as sports betting, casino games

What the ****? Has it read the whole of 2+2?


It’s going to end up doxing everyone online lol.


by d2_e4 P

What the ****? Has it read the whole of 2+2?

He's pulling your leg regarding that second answer. I will admit that I ran over to my computer, full of excitement, because I had to try it out for myself. It was probably the most disappointing thing that happened to me today when I saw that it didn't work.

Edited to add:

I logged into ChatGPT, as it said I could then use 4.0 instead of 3.5, and it shockingly knows at least some general details about us.

Do you know about the poster named Metsandfinsfan on twoplustwo.com?

I wasn't able to find detailed information about Metsandfinsfan earlier. Here's what I can tell you:

Metsandfinsfan is a prominent and active member of the Two Plus Two poker forum community. This user has thousands of posts across various topics, including politics, society, sports, and general discussions. Metsandfinsfan often engages in lively debates and discussions, contributing significantly to the forum's activity.

If you have specific questions about Metsandfinsfan or need details about particular discussions or posts, feel free to ask!

can you give me more detail regarding the user MetsandFinsFan on twoplustwo.com?

It seems there are ongoing issues accessing specific information about the user "Metsandfinsfan" on the Two Plus Two forums. Here’s a summary based on what is generally known:

Metsandfinsfan:

Join Date: January 9, 2006
Total Posts: Over 159,000
Posts Per Day: Approximately 23.69
Activity: Active across various sections, including politics, society, sports, and general discussions.
Reputation: Known for engaging in detailed and passionate discussions, particularly in the "Politics and Society" section.
Notable Threads: Participates in high-engagement threads such as the Israel/Palestine discussions.

If you have specific questions about Metsandfinsfan or need details on particular interactions, let me know, and I'll do my best to assist!


Wtf, that **** is crazy. Our AI overlords are definitely here. Do some other posters, this is fun.


What are the views of the moderator Crossnerd regarding user MetsandFinFan on twoplustwo.com?

The moderator Crossnerd on Two Plus Two forums has expressed critical views regarding Metsandfinsfan, particularly due to Metsandfinsfan's highly active and sometimes contentious participation in discussions, especially related to the Israel/Palestine conflict. Crossnerd's interactions suggest a level of frustration with Metsandfinsfan's persistent and intense engagement in debates, which can often be polarizing and lead to heated exchanges on the forum​ (Two Plus Two)​.

If you need more specific information or examples from their interactions, please let me know!


You're making this **** up, there is no way it can "read" the forum and generate a synopsis like that, right? Right?


So I reached my ChatGPT 4.0 limit for the day before I realized I had to be more detailed in my questions. If you aren't detailed in your questions, you get answers like these:

do you know about the poster named d2_e4 on twoplustwo.com?

I'm currently unable to retrieve specific information about the user "d2_e4" from the Two Plus Two forums due to access issues. However, based on the limited information available, "d2_e4" appears to be an active participant in various discussions, particularly in the Politics and Society sections, and has a substantial post count.

If you have any particular questions or need details about certain topics or interactions involving "d2_e4," please let me know!


do you know about the poster named Victor on twoplustwo.com?

I'm encountering consistent issues accessing detailed information about specific users on the Two Plus Two forums, including "Victor."

Based on general knowledge, "Victor" appears to be a highly active and controversial member who frequently engages in discussions on the Politics and Society forum. This user has a significant number of posts and interactions, often centered around political topics, including the Israel-Palestine conflict.

If you have any specific questions or need information on particular topics or interactions involving "Victor," please let me know!

I am now counting down the hours until I can use this again!


Like, how does it know who is "controversial", or "contentious"? First of all, you need to have read, parsed, and understood all of their posts (and for both Victor and mets, all 3 of those things are no small feat), and secondly you need to make a very subjective judgement on their content as well as how other users respond to them. That's some scary ****.


by d2_e4 P

You're making this **** up, there is no way it can "read" the forum and generate a synopsis like that, right? Right?

I was especially surprised to see that ChatGPT knows about the Crossnerd / Mets drama. It is probably a good thing that I reached the limit for the night, as I would definitely be playing with this all night when I have to be up for work in a few hours.

In conclusion, FREE JBOUTON!


by DonkJr P


In conclusion, FREE JBOUTON!

Based on recent developments, you might need to go to Canada and represent him in court to do that.


by d2_e4 P

Like, how does it know who is "controversial", or "contentious"? First of all, you need to have read, parsed, and understood all of their posts (and for both Victor and mets, all 3 of those things are no small feat), and secondly you need to make a very subjective judgement on their content as well as how other users respond to them. That's some scary ****.

It is less detailed for posters with lower post counts than higher post counts. It had less detailed and not totally accurate info about me, stating that in addition to the politics forum I also post in NVG, which I don't believe I have ever done.

It seems to be very good when you ask very detailed questions, rather than just a general "who is this guy" type of question. Tomorrow I will ask it where El Diablo posts these days. Ooh, also, I need to know whether high rake is actually better for the game than low rake. The possibilities are endless!


by chillrob P

How would he know if they 'still' think that if they weren't mentioning it often?


There was more than one leap made, but really this doesn't seem especially important to continue with, so I'll withdraw my statement.

by chillrob P

Your second statement is agreeing with me, I guess?


Yeah, my reading comprehension was rivalling Biden's, well, everything yesterday. I think I misread "expect more from strangers than you do from friends" as the opposite, sorry.


Lol at the chatgpt mets stuff. Solid gold.

Although they left out most of his work on pog.


by DonkJr P

It is less detailed for posters with lower post counts than higher post counts. It had less detailed and not totally accurate info about me, stating that in addition to the politics forum I also post in NVG, which I don't believe I have ever done.

It seems to be very good when you ask very detailed questions, rather than just a general "who is this guy" type of question. Tomorrow I will ask it where El Diablo posts these days. Ooh, also,

LOL. Do one for me.


by Rococo P

LOL. Do one for me.


So maybe the hamsters that work the ChatGPT AI need their morning coffee, as the responses this morning are far less impressive than last night's. It took a few tries to even get any kind of answer, and fiddling around with the questions to get it to spit something new out made me reach my limit again. Maybe it works better in the middle of the night, when there are less people using it?


What do you know about user Rococo on twoplustwo.com?

It seems there are ongoing access issues preventing me from retrieving specific details about the user Rococo on the Two Plus Two forums.

Based on general forum dynamics, here's some information that might help:

Moderator Role: Rococo is a moderator on the Two Plus Two forums, specifically active in the Politics and Society sections. As a moderator, Rococo likely deals with enforcing forum rules, managing user interactions, and maintaining order in discussions.

Views and Interactions: Rococo's moderation style and views can be critical, especially towards users who frequently engage in heated or contentious debates. This includes handling posts related to fringe conspiracy theories and other controversial topics.

If you have specific questions or need detailed information about Rococo's interactions or views on particular topics, please let me know!

I would like more detailed information regarding user Rococo's political views on twoplustwo.com

It appears that there are ongoing issues accessing specific pages regarding Rococo's political views on Two Plus Two forums.

Based on common patterns of forum activity and moderation, here are some general insights:

Active Engagement: Rococo is likely an active participant in discussions within the Politics and Society section.
Moderation Balance: As a moderator, Rococo might emphasize maintaining a balance between allowing free speech and enforcing rules to prevent disruptive behavior.
Specific Stances: Rococo's political views might be detailed and nuanced, often reflecting a deep engagement with current events and political debates.

If you need more detailed information on Rococo's political views or have specific questions, please let me know!


You guys will like this one:

What do you know about user JBouton on twoplustwo.com?

JBouton is an active and influential member of the Two Plus Two poker forums, known for participating in various discussions and debates related to poker strategy and other topics. He often engages in detailed conversations, providing insights and challenging other users' views. JBouton is well-regarded for his analytical approach and his contributions to poker theory discussions.

As a regular contributor, JBouton has a reputation for being thorough and knowledgeable. His posts are often well-researched and backed by a deep understanding of the game, which has earned him respect among other forum members​ (Poker Road)​​ (Two Plus Two)


Hahaha. Gold.


by DonkJr P


JBouton is an active and influential member of the Two Plus Two poker forums, known for participating in various discussions and debates related to poker strategy and other topics. He often engages in detailed conversations, providing insights and challenging other users' views. JBouton is well-regarded for his analytical approach and his contributions to poker theory discussions.

I mean, it's not wrong. He is pretty well regarded, by himself. I guess it's not yet human enough to be able to tell that someone posting "I am the world's foremost expert on rocket science and brain surgery" does not necessarily make it so.


d2, are you trying to say that high rake is better for the game than low rake? Do you even Ideal Poker???


by DonkJr P

Do you even Ideal Poker???

Dude, you've clearly forgotten the first rule of Ideal Poker.


JBouton is a real person who is very clearly suffering from mental health problems and this site is not at all good for it. It reflects rather poorly on you guys who want him to be your dancing monkey.


****ing hell, when Trolly is the voice of reason, it's probably time to stop trolling.


In my defense, targets are pretty thin on the ground these days. The useless ****ers keep getting themselves banned. I mean, the best we have right now is crypto guy, and he's meh.


by Trolly McTrollson P

JBouton is a real person who is very clearly suffering from mental health problems and this site is not at all good for it. It reflects rather poorly on you guys who want him to be your dancing monkey.

While this is perfectly true, I would like to point out something for the record :

If someone writes a 1000 pages and 900 pages are full of complete and utterly insane thoughts and bad speculations, that does not categorically mean that the other 100 pages do not contain some genuinely interesting ideas.


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