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For me, this has nothing to do with pearl clutching or fainting couches.

It's hard to know what the impact to the country would have been if the assassination attempt against Trump had been successful. But my strong instinct is that it is would not have resulted in a peaceful purging of Trumpism from the GOP. (By Trumpism, I am referring to Trump's style of politics, not a basket of policies. Trump has very few actual policy beliefs.)

If Trump had died of a stroke shortly after losing to Biden, and shortly after going all-in on his election horseshit, I think there would have been a significant chance of a pullback in Trumpism. But Trump dying from an assassin's bullet while leading the polls in 2024 is a far different scenario. As I said, I don't know exactly what would have happened in that scenario, but martyrdom and further entrenchment of Trumpism seem like strong possibilities.

She's behind the group that is piled on top of him. Is she supposed to stand up straight? If it's her job to ask where they're going and then start clearing that direction then that's probably exactly where she's supposed to be.

She is touching one of the guys who is on top of Trump the entire time, including when they stand up. When she realizes that (for whatever reason) they aren't actually moving she goes to complete the circle around him. When they move to the car the three women are clearing the way, and do not actually get into the car.

It's possible she screwed up somewhere, but I don't think it's clear from the fact that she's not jumping on top of him with the rest and is asking where they're going. If I were to guess as to what the major screw up was here, I'd say that once standing him up the entire group allows Trump to just stand there instead of moving him along.

Trump tried to stay in office despite losing an election. And he tried to do so through unlawful means. The only way to describe that behavior accurately is to call it an attack on democratic norms. GOP criticism of Democrats for accurately describing Trump's behavior is blatant bad faith.

I don't care much whether people think Trump is funny or not. But the people who vote for him because of the lols are contemptible.

more or less contemptible than the people who wish he was killed?

or maybe we just keep ar-15s out of the hands of people that have no business owning them.........

What specific features about the shooter could have or would have indicated that he was one of the people that had "no business" owning the gun? From all I have read, he had no prior criminal record or any of the other red flags that would have prevented him from buying a gun.

he didn't own the gun. it was his dad's. that being said, i don't think there were any indicators he shouldn't be able to own guns other than classmates saying that he'd probably be the guy to shoot up the school

I get that he didn't own the gun, but biggerboat is going with the whole "this person should have have been allowed to have a gun" line. I am curious to know what it was about this shooter that the government should have known about before he did the shooting, that should have discounted him from possessing a firearm.

I'd ban ar-15s completely, but for the sake of argument.

Different guns should be classified differently for one. If you want any gun, you should have to go through rigorous background checks and then you get the privilege of owning one that you can use for protection, but not one that you can mow down groups of people at 200 yards.

After a period of time where you've proven that you can be responsible, you are allowed to own something more powerful.

His dad should charged, then.

The woman getting lambasted looked pretty large, so this seems like a straw man

Charged with what?

Your a foreigner who is here explicitly to troll. Don't pretend that you don't enjoy rolling around in the muck.

You are going to bat day after day after day for a guy whos implied his followers should beat up or even kill other politicians.

You don't get to play the more/less contemptible card. If you can't wrap your head around why you are a dredge then maybe you aren't even trolling and you just are this way

Parents of a school shooter just got convicted of murder.

Let's put him in the bullseye

It should be law that high powered rifles are secured so that only the person they are registered to has access and that person is liable for anything that happens with that weapon.

Thats like, basic 101 level accountability. His rifle was used to murder someone.

Letting a murderer have his gun.

Yeah, thats not even remotely hateful rhetoric to anyone with half a brain. I guess you just are this way.

This is not quite the killer (see what I did there?) mic drop line you seem to think it is.

We are talking about an area of the country where there is a high school shooting team. While you and I may agree that twenty year olds are generally too immature to possess firearms, (1) that is certainly not the law and (2) we are talking about an area of the country that very clearly has a different gun culture than more liberal areas of the country.

Agreed. And saying let's march to the capitol isn't hateful rhetoric to anyone with half a brain either.

But then when events happen that can be associated with those comments, it all of a sudden becomes hateful rhetoric.

Tough to have it both ways.

You're sort of tolerable when you're not being a disingenuous schmuck, but stuff like this is pathetic.

He didn't just say "let's march to the Capitol", did he now?

that's pretty much my point