2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by Dunyain P

I had friends who played Magic (was never my thing personally). I am pretty confident none of them had junkie single mothers and grew up with their grandparents from Appalachia.

Anyways, I am sure by your antagonism towards Vance you are going to support Kamala. And from what I know her embellishments of her childhood are at least as bad as Vance's; so it is going to take a lot of cognitive dissonance on your part not to be bothered by th

I haven't read any book written by Harris, nor am I too familiar with her upbringing, so I cannot comment. I read Hillbilly Elegy and it was clearly a dishonest attempt to build himself up as some underdog hero who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, as if it is practically impossible for anybody born without a silver spoon to be anything but a donkey in this country.

I get that you are taken with his story. Young man born into poverty pulls himself up and is now a big deal, all because of his own hard work. It is a story as old as time! But it falls flat when it is not true, and from the entire body of his autobiography, not just the magic the gathering reference which you keep harping on, it is all a complete exaggeration.


by DonkJr P

I haven't read any book written by Harris, nor am I too familiar with her upbringing, so I cannot comment. I read Hillbilly Elegy and it was clearly a dishonest attempt to build himself up as some underdog hero who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, as if it is practically impossible for anybody born without a silver spoon to be anything but a donkey in this country.

I get that you are taken with his story. Young man born into poverty

See also: Little pieces, a million of.


by DonkJr P

Never heard anybody say anything negative about Thinman.

I remember the entirety of the sports forum giving him mad **** for a long, long time. They HATED him. It was pretty remarkable to witness just how thoroughly loathed he was.

More importantly, at least as it pertains to this thread, I'm objectively correct about genocide in Gaza and he's objectively incorrect. He's upset about that, but that ain't my problem.


I hear Trump's refusing to debate with Harris. Lol what a puny demagogue.


by diebitter P

I hear Trump's refusing to debate with Harris. Lol what a puny demagogue.

Source? Only thing I saw is he wants it on Fox instead of whatever left leaning network it was scheduled for.

That being said, it's probably to his benefit to not debate


by housenuts P

Source? Only thing I saw is he wants it on Fox instead of whatever left leaning network it was scheduled for.

That being said, it's probably to his benefit to not debate

He'll be easy to goad. All she has to do is hint that if he doesn't do the debate with a woman that means he has a tiny dick or something to that effect, and his pre-schooler mentality won't allow him to resist the bait.


by diebitter P

I hear Trump's refusing to debate with Harris. Lol what a puny demagogue.

Dems would have to know they were risking that with subjecting Biden to an early debate instead of replacing him by subjecting him to hard interviews (and tbh even just the public appearances were just as damaging like at the NATO summit and introducing Zelensky as Putin)


I remember decades ago reading in a psychology book the way in which many people abandon rationality when their emotions or identity are involved. "Of course, we all do that," I thought. No biggie. What I didn't realize then was the extent to which reality can be so totally dismissed in this dynamic. So that, yes, we all have some difficulty with this issue, but, like anything else, there is a big range on which people are on this continuum. The "Reality Show" turn-reality-upside-down-party, flaunting their lust to be gaslighted away from reality, vomit up their nominees based on this wish. It is wishing, not respecting reality, that is the guiding principle in their psychology.

Coping with reality is a built in character test for human beings. If we learn to cope with it, accept it, deal with it, admit it, subjugate our wishes to it rather than vice versa, we develop a reality based dynamic within consciousness. If it is too overwhelming and we seek to escape it, we seek to subvert our minds in response to its threat. Somebody who gaslights us becomes our friend, our seducer, our savior. A master of propaganda is vomited up as our leader. "Master" just means tell them what they want to hear, turn reality on its ear, and do it relentlessly. The Ministry of Truth decrees that 2+2=5, and the rabble are assuaged, appeased, indulged. And a movement is born. Where there is a population by the tens of millions sending money to television evangelists, there is a population ripe and yawning to be taken like this.

George Orwell is a prophet, his movement comes 40 years late, and the faithful bid to bring it to pass.


by diebitter P

I hear Trump's refusing to debate with Harris. Lol what a puny demagogue.

seeing how it went him him in trials where he cant BS much, im not surprise he isnt interested.

and of course biden in hiding in basement was wrong in 2020 and now trump hiding too for debating which is ok because its them 😀...


‘I Know Donald Trump’s Type’: Harris Receives Thunderous Applause Recalling Experience Prosecuting ‘Perpetrators of All Kinds’

Source (with video): https://www.mediaite.com/tv/i-know-donal...

Going to be an interesting few months...


I can't find a source now, so might have been some facebook bullshit not sure


I have a feeling it's just felons hating prosecuting lawyers maybe.


by FellaGaga-52 P

I remember decades ago reading in a psychology book the way in which many people abandon rationality when their emotions or identity are involved. "Of course, we all do that," I thought. No biggie. What I didn't realize then was the extent to which reality can be so totally dismissed in this dynamic. So that, yes, we all have some difficulty with this issue, but, like anything else, there is a big range on which people are on this continuum

Indeed. And Heller spoke of this too. From Catch-22:

"It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character."

These 4 words could be the Trump They Live slogan: Turn Slander Into Truth


I think Idiocracy portrays our situation much better than the classic dystopian novels, but they all hit on something -- Brave New World especially.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P


More importantly, at least as it pertains to this thread, I'm objectively correct about genocide in Gaza and he's objectively incorrect. He's upset about that, but that ain't my problem.



by DonkJr P

This looks like a man who just heard the mountain dew joke.



I'm appalled at the inaccuracy in this thread. It was not a Mt. Dew joke. It was a DIET Mt. Dew joke.

Confusing the two should be a capital offense.


Cheatle resigned. Real shocker after everyone ITT said she did a great job


by diebitter P

I hear Trump's refusing to debate with Harris. Lol what a puny demagogue.

He probably should refuse. He has nothing to gain.


by housenuts P

Cheatle resigned. Real shocker after everyone ITT said she did a great job

They did?


by d2_e4 P

Has Trump ever hit a home run? I mean, "crooked Hillary" and "crooked Joe" don't seem like zingers to me.

When he got mad at Bannon, he started referring to him as "Sloppy Steve," which was pretty on the nose. Two weeks before it happened, my brother called and said that if Trump got crosswise with Bannon, he would label him "Sloppy Steve."

When Trump started with the Sloppy Steve tweets, my brother was beside himself with pride at his prediction.


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one day after Biden dropped out a poll was taken by a University and the Convict shows a slight edge

but the article states there is no clear leader as the results are within the margin of error - see link

and then there's this - which gave me a nice morning chuckle - "Let's Go Brandon" is of course a fudging of words that came to mean "eff Joe Biden"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTKKcJEXkAAJ...

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?release...

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by housenuts P

everyone ITT said she did a great job

everyone?


Do political rallies really matter? Wouldn't anyone that goes to a particular candidate's rally know who they are voting for?


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