2024 US Presidential Election Betting Thread

2024 US Presidential Election Betting Thread

Ladies and gentleman, that time of the year is almost upon us. Republican debates start next month and I am looking forward to seeing all my friends again. It almost feels like school is back in session.

Some interesting candidates this year and wondering if Domahhhh is going to risk his entire net worth on a coinflip of a single election (getting -180 of course).

We didn't think it could get any worse but here we are. I wish the BOL to all competitors in this arena.

13 July 2023 at 09:09 AM
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by PokerHero77 P

I would want to know the reason(s) why Kamala dropped out. If Barack was behind it then I'm guessing Michelle O would be close to fave.

If you're going anti-Kamala, I personally prefer the field for 13c than Michelle at 6c


by Johnny_B P

In this hypothetical it's unknown.

+100? +150? +200? +300?

Yes, that's why I noted market implied. I'd go with that absent any add'l info.

I don't see any compelling reason for the market to be out of whack, for now at least.


by PokerHero77 P

Yes, that's why I noted market implied. I'd go with that absent any add'l info.

I don't see any compelling reason for the market to be out of whack, for now at least.

So Kamala is 87c on Polymarket, Michelle is 6c so Michelle is about 6/13 or about +117. That seems give or take about right?


by Johnny_B P

So Kamala is 87c on Polymarket, Michelle is 6c so Michelle is about 6/13 or about +117. That seems give or take about right?

I saw 5c on Michelle. Forgetting about breakage/overround I'd put her fair around +160.


by PokerHero77 P

I saw 5c on Michelle. Forgetting about breakage/overround I'd put her around +160.

Alright. I propose this:

If Kamala Harris doesn't become the Democratic nominee for President in 2024 for any reason, you have +160 on Michelle Obama, I have the field -160.

If Kamala Harris becomes the Democratic nominee for President the bet has no action.

Any amount you want up to $80,000 risk on my side ($50,000 risk your side)

lmk


And exactly why would I take that with nothing going for me other than market implied?

I was perfectly clear with you when I answered your question. You said nothing about "hypotheticals" preventing me from learning why Kamala would have dropped out when in fact people would likely know, or have a better idea at least.

I knew exactly where you were going with this, trying to score points or make me look stupid because I did not take you up on your dumb prop.

Get a life.


by PokerHero77 P

Get a life.

qq


I'll give you +200 to account for "hypotheticals. "

My 100k to your 50k. Or my 2k to your 1k. Or any amount in between.

Willing to escrow with a reputable poster (preferablyTomG if he is willing for a small cut).

Serious offer.


Ok, let's walk this thru. I got Michelle O fair 20:1, which is about .0476. I got Kamala fair around 81%. 19/4.76 is 4 or 3:1.

If this were offered 4:1 or better at a reputable establishment I put a couple units on it.

I don't need to comment any further. My previous observations re you were proven out.


by Johnny_B P

I'll give you +200 to account for "hypotheticals. "

My 100k to your 50k. Or my 2k to your 1k. Or any amount in between.

Willing to escrow with a reputable poster (preferablyTomG if he is willing for a small cut).

Serious offer.

wouldn't it be a much better bet for you to just fade obama at polymarket?

getting obama at +200 and kamala is no bet, is a bet i would take


by HolidayInTheSun P

wouldn't it be a much better bet for you to just fade obama at polymarket?

You mean wait and if Kamala drops out then hammer Michelle no at Polymarket? Possibly. quite probably in fact.

by HolidayInTheSun P

getting obama at +200 and kamala is no bet, is a bet i would take

If PokerHero doesn't want it you can have it if you want. No need to escrow as I trust you and I hope the reverse is true.


Considering the implied risks I might escrow 6:1.


by Johnny_B P

You mean wait and if Kamala drops out then hammer Michelle no at Polymarket? Possibly. quite probably in fact.

if/when harris drops out michelle will be either >50% or <2%


I tried explaining that to him. Crickets...


by housenuts P

Kamala is not throwing in the towel, but her corner might do it for her. Same as Joe.

She didn't even meet Bibi, which is a pretty big deal. Isn't the VP supposed to step in if the president is incapacitated or unable to fulfill in-person duties? What's the perceived image of that with other leaders (besides the infamous money begger that continues to grift while making the rounds around every other country in the world)?


FWIW, I traded out of Kamala "yes" on both betfair and poly. Building lay bets atm while market is pricing her in over 90%. +EV to bet against this imo (as I just stated 1) she's ranked very unfavourable in polls 2) she didn't meet Bibi 3) She was destroyed in the last DNC primary 4) she's just an insufferable unlikeable clown)


by smartDFS P

if/when harris drops out michelle will be either >50% or <2%

OK. Sure.

And I'm saying I think it's <2% so much more often than it's >50% that taking -200 without having any additional information is +EV.

Of course if Kamala is pushed out by Obama then the odds should be lower than +200 and if she is removed for other reasons then the odds should be higher. I'm simply offering a wager based on current publicly available information using odds that he himself set. Not sure why that makes me an *******.


my wallet is empty, my balls are full, i am ready



by Johnny_B P

Not sure why that makes me an *******.


Because you asked me this:

by Johnny_B P

If Kamala drops out (or is pushed out) what do you make the line on Michelle?


Which I replied in sincerity that it would depend on the events causing Kamala to drop out. why would I ignore that critical piece of information if she drops out?

Then you follow up with "hypotheticals" nonsense, when it became obvious to me where you were going.

You could have simply proposed your prop for everybody, but instead you picked me thinking I was some rube.

Again, get a life.


And your ignorant assertion:

by Johnny_B P

using odds that he himself set


After my reasonable estimate...

by PokerHero77 P

I don't know her implied odds atm assuming Kamala is out, I'm guessing around +200-+300.


...was not good enough for you, you came back with this:

by Johnny_B P

So Kamala is 87c on Polymarket, Michelle is 6c so Michelle is about 6/13 or about +117. That seems give or take about right?


Was certainly full of sincerity.


thoughts on the condiments for the 2nd hotdog?


mark kelly is the ideal person imo and has skyrocketed up from obscure to the betting favorite this week on news that he is indeed the best choice being a former fighter pilot and astronaut he's exactly the kind of person who people who don't like kamala can get behind as he's a real man's man, even bald too for bonus points


so his intangibles are amazing


but being from arizona, his tangibles are limited bringing in a relatively unimportant swing state that dems will likely win anyway and borders california

the rust belt are what's going to decide this election

no positions yet, but it looks like the 2nd hotdog condiment market is the least settled and most inefficient right now so that's probably the best place for me to lose some more monies


no thoughts on hotdog 2, but kelly is 36% right now.


by rickroll P

thoughts on the condiments for the 2nd hotdog?


mark kelly is the ideal person imo and has skyrocketed up from obscure to the betting favorite this week on news that he is indeed the best choice being a former fighter pilot and astronaut he's exactly the kind of person who people who don't like kamala can get behind as he's a real man's man, even bald too for bonus points


so his intangibles are amazing


but being from arizona, his tangibles are

No polling shows the dems to win Arizona. Their hot dogs have gotten too spoiled and shrivled. A fresh hot dog is needed. Kamala can only offer a taco.


ah last i checked i thought it leaned dem

either way, arizona is highly unlikely to determine the winner


by Johnny_B P


If PokerHero doesn't want it you can have it if you want. No need to escrow as I trust you and I hope the reverse is true.

JB, I like you and this isn’t a good bet for you. I think you’re taking the worst of it. But if you’re offering, I’ll take it.

Settlement August 23, if for some reason nobody is nominated by then, we’ll call it no action. If Kamala is the nom on that date, no action. Anyone besides Kamala or Michelle Obama, you win. Michelle Obama, I win.

I offer my humble $2,500 to your $5,000.

Please confirm if we are on, or let me know if you’d like to make any amendments to the above.


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