The costs of trans visibility

No one is taking an L, even the Italian woman who lost gets a participation trophy from the sad gender ideologue losers.

Objection. Submitted without evidence.

Unlike sex, there are no biological tests for gender.

Unless you include the eye test, in which case yes they both failed.

ya bud the big scary ask of you here is to conjugate words the EXACT SAME WAY you already do and not make up random new things. And the more important point is that this is about the fifth time you’ve made this basic mistake and yet you seem just unable or unwilling to internalize the error.

They are actually called gender test using the normal non Marxist meaning of gender, which is synonymous with sex, biological sex, and so on.

even the rabidly leftist, pro lgtbq activism the guardian used "gender test" in the headline

i really hate how you always share screenshots and never a link

also, you should clear your tabs - that's just dragging down your device having so many open that it stops counting and gives the smiling face

of course they did because for people on the far left, gender is far more important than sex.

You can just ask people if you're not sure.

It's incredible the faux outrage these folks give off at uh mainstream news organizing reporting the basics facts of the case. Some people are just determined to be angry and make everything a point in their distorted culture wars I guess.

no need - I’ve never misgendered somebody going purely off the eye test.

Yah, but it turns out that sex is far more important than gender when it comes to performance in sporting competitions.

So many attempts to distract from the fact that there 2 boxers who failed genders tests who are now going to box for gold and won every match with ease. Both boxers have won every round. They must just be THAT good.

What are you thinking people are trying to distract from? The issue has been discussed pretty thoroughly here, in spite of it not even being a transgender issue. Obviously there could be a competitive imbalance situation that the IOC needs to address for future Olympics, and I don't known if I've seen anyone ITT take a strong position against that. Is there something further that you think is being ignored?

Not here, they used gender to mean sex. Gender test as in "woman or not biologically" as our parents (and all humans that ever existed until 10-15 years ago) would have said

I open hundreds of tabs per day.

Here is the link

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/articl...

You didn't read the headline did you? The guardian called it a GENDER TEST when it was about testosterone and biology (DNA).

IE a sex test, because even the most rabid faithful marxist if he isn't like 21 studied on texts where gender and sex are synonymous

It is a trans issue as well.

Those are biological men who live as women in their lives, and did for all their lives!, to the point even their governments (which in algeria case don't allow sex changes) think of them as biological women (which they aren't), can't get more trans than that.

It's unfortunate that people who truly, deeply, uncontroversially think of themselves as women, can't be allowed to play sports with women.

It's a shame some people claimed this was cheating or some scam attempt.

But they can't because they are ACTUALLY MEN, biologically, semantically, genetically. And that provides an advantage

It means nothing really. Just another nonsense term people with mental health issues like to use to pretend they're not male or female.

''Non-binary people may identify as an intermediate or separate third gender, identify with more than one gender or no gender, or have a fluctuating gender identity.''

Total word salad.

You should be careful about this

1. Your own tortured definition of man or woman within your gender ideology is a bunch of meaningless nonsense that amounts to circular descriptions of sex stereotypes

2. If you aren't referring to someone itt then it's not exactly all that rude to "misgender" someone

3. "Misgendering" almost always happens to someone that doesn't subscribe to gender ideology. Should this ideological position set the standard of discourse under the presumption its correct or true? Big stretch imo

4. I've repeatedly asked for someone to explain what "gender" adds or changes from categories we already know and understand. We have sex, personality, and sexuality. If you can't or refuse to explain the difference combined with your definition (or lack of) of a woman, it's very premature to enforce gender ideology on everyone as the standard

5. I agree with the starting point of politeness irl. That said, politely "affirming" someone's chosen identity isn't the same as believing them. Politeness also has a line, right? Like I can call you mam but if you're going to box my sister, follow my daughter in to a change room, etc the whole politeness game is over. It time to get real

Imo as a mod you should error on the side of "tolerance"

It is against the rules of this forum to state that being transgender is actually just a mental health issue. It's not to say we can't discuss mental health issues affecting trans people, but those are two different sentiments. Bans will be given for breaking this rule in the future.

Your opinion is noted and nothing in how I mod here will be changing.

Look, this discussion should not be an excuse for every anti-trans person to come out and start professing their bigotry. The discussion about rules is over. If you don't agree with people being trans and you calling them the correct gender, then just don't post in this thread.

I still do not see my mistake is or are WTF is the difference ?

This is ass backwards btw. Its a lot less rude to be rude to someones face than behind their back.

A lot less bitch made too