2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
Trump/Desantis 2028 is a lock
They are ALL Cult leaders... Tribalism is the only thing they have to run on any longer.
the issue is, which cult do you want to belong to... one of personal responsibility or one of oversight and entitlements.
They are ALL Cult leaders... Tribalism is the only thing they have to run on any longer.
the issue is, which cult do you want to belong to... one of personal responsibility or one of oversight and entitlements.
#bothsidesbad
Jokes aside, this is a bad take. The democrats are very much a coalition that straddles a wide variety of groups and ideology. They generally struggle to coalesce around one candidate.
In comparison, the GOP is now fully controlled by MAGA and so-called "conservatives" and we see in primary after primary that loyalty to Trump is the ruling obligation, ideology and record does not matter.
But that just isn’t the same. Biden never really generated enthusiasm among the Dems even in 2020 and was just a transactional candidate whereas trump is probably the most popular Republican since reagan
And Biden chose to give up the title of most important democrat. Good luck if you see Trump doing that whole alive.
If trump loses these elections there is a very high probability he will end up in prison btw
You’re misinterpreting what I mean when I say he’s popular
Among republicans his popularity is unquestioned. It’s why the entire ****ing party has bent to his will to the point his daughter in law is the RNC chair. No Republican has held this much popularity within their own party since reagan
He is also viscerally despised by the majority of the country since republicans are the minority party. And because of both facts the republicans have failed in every election 2018 onward
If you disagree with any element of this post idk what to tell you
#bothsidesbad
Jokes aside, this is a bad take. The democrats are very much a coalition that straddles a wide variety of groups and ideology. They generally struggle to coalesce around one candidate.
In comparison, the GOP is now fully controlled by MAGA and so-called "conservatives" and we see in primary after primary that loyalty to Trump is the ruling obligation, ideology and record does not matter.
Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.
Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.
Why do you people lie is the question.
Biden took a higher proportion of the primary vote than Trump got this cycle.
Heavily contested primaries happened for republicans
yeah i'd say both parties hate primaries for the same reason - trump absolutely neutered the careers of a few guys who were rising stars in the party who are now nowhere close to as popular as before they went toe to toe with him
Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.
Yes trump ejected all the RINOs and some got threaten by hanging when u go against trump …
Is that what we call rallying behind a leader ?
Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.
Yeah Trump did as well as Gore and HW Bush in their primaries. Which is effectively starting as the presumed nominee but going through the motions of a primary. Don’t think Dems hate primaries though. The 08 primary was one of the parties high points.
Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.
It is good that the democrats rail and quarrel, and it is bad that the GOP is now in lock-step.
I like it when politicians are handicapped by having to garner support and be pragmatic. It stops the state and government from having too much power and it gives a voice to minority views.
And while it can at times be ineffective or water down idealism, it is also an effective barrier towards critical errors because it is harder to ignore criticism.
you guys can be anti-trump/anti-republican without making stuff up. they had a primary this cycle, and all the top contenders (haley, desantis, christie, ramaswamy, pence, etc) ran, and trump got 76% of the vote. it's roughly 10000000000% more legitimate and competitive than brandon winning a sham primary against dean phillips, marianne, and something called jason palmer. actually "uncommitted" finished 2nd with 4.25% of the vote lol
But the trump crowd has no where to go but shrink and if he loses its obv going to be tough to win in 28.
Trump isnt going to gain more votes within the gop in 28
The Trump crowd doesn't shrink. Its the republican party that shrinks. It shrank by like 15% from 2016 to 2020 and then Trump got the second highest total of votes in US history (where Biden in the same election got the most) so the Trump crowd grew. And then after Jan 6 the republican party shrank again probably by 15%. It will be interesting to see if Trump will gain from undecideds in 2024 like he did in 2016 and 2020.
If Trump loses in 2024 then 2028 will likely be a disaster. The Republican party can't dismiss him. But he may choose not to run again because losing for him is devastating. or he may be truly incoherent by then...
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his speeches have become more incoherent and his recent "what if biden fights and becomes the nominee again and i can debate HIM" fever dream tweet was an unforced error i don't think he'd have made last cycle. highly unlikely he'd be candidate in '28
you guys can be anti-trump/anti-republican without making stuff up. they had a primary this cycle, and all the top contenders (haley, desantis, christie, ramaswamy, pence, etc) ran, and trump got 76% of the vote. it's roughly 10000000000% more legitimate and competitive than brandon winning a sham primary against dean phillips, marianne, and something called jason palmer. actually "uncommitted" finished 2nd with 4.25% of the vote lol
Do you really believe trump would not win the primaries ?
Reallly ?
The guy was always above 50% and never even had to do 1 debate lol …
Anyone knew from the start it was a done deal shrug.
