Vice-President Kamala Harris

Vice-President Kamala Harris

Probably requires her own thread at this moment, lock/delete etc if someone else wins the nom

21 July 2024 at 09:25 PM
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by Luciom P

forward + the horizon looking vague gaze, as I wrote from the beginning.

In a political message for consequential elections / propaganda

Even if I were to buy into this, I'm not seeing the "horizon looking vague gaze", nor am I sure that I'd be able to tell one from a regular gaze.


by d2_e4 P

Even if I were to buy into this, I'm not seeing the "horizon looking vague gaze", nor am I sure that I'd be able to tell one from a regular gaze.


It's any gaze used by a communist, LDO.


by tame_deuces P

The US has been carrying out elections as if the voting is essential and the vice-president's affirmation is ceremonial. To anyone with half a brain it is evident that what the founding fathers intended was for the voting to be ceremonial and the vice-president's affirmation to be essential.

This way you can have a highly qualified individual decide who the future head of state will be, instead of the common riffraff and dubious electors.

Of


You probably just never read the constitution to say something so confidently incorrect. The best possible faith interpretation here is that you are using “Vice President” as a stand in for “property owning white men elected by other property owning white men”. Yeah that’s how it played out but even in the early states there were many that allowed black people and women to vote, then overturned it, then returned it again.

The ideals of the founding fathers always tended towards equality under the law, but their actions were a compromise and they knew that a lot of the time. Even being hypocritical enough to own slaves while believing in natural rights of man.


by checkraisdraw P

You probably just never read the constitution to say something so confidently incorrect. The best possible faith interpretation here is that you are using “Vice President” as a stand in for “property owning white men elected by other property owning white men”. Yeah that’s how it played out but even in the early states there were many that allowed black people and women to vote, then overturned it, then returne

This you?



by d2_e4 P

This you?



It's 2024, sarcasm isn't easy to spot. Though I did figure the drag-racing part would be a giveaway.


by tame_deuces P

It's 2024, sarcasm isn't easy to spot. Though I did figure the drag-racing part would be a giveaway.

Chalk one up for Poe's law.


by d2_e4 P

This you?


The problem with this type of sarcasm is that there are real people that believe what you said word for word and further, but fair enough.

You literally had a riot of people chanting “hang mike pence” because of this exact thing lol


by checkraisdraw P

The problem with this type of sarcasm is that there are real people that believe what you said word for word and further, but fair enough.

You literally had a riot of people chanting “hang mike pence” because of this exact thing lol

Yes, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_la.... The point of the text was to mock those people, it's called "parody".

Also, I wasn't the poster who wrote it.


the vice president exact and specific role in certifying election results was so "obvious", that after Trump attempt to have it his way congress felt necessary to actually pass a law to clarify it...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/co...

The provisions amending the 1887 law — which has long been criticized as poorly and confusingly written — won bipartisan support and would make it harder for future presidential losers to prevent the ascension of their foes, as Trump tried to do on Jan. 6, 2021.

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so the constitution wasn't clear on the topic, a law passed in 1887 enacting constitutional provisions wasn't clear on the topic, and now that's fixed.

what we can learn from that? that founding fathers had many merits, and they correctly understood the masses can often be evil, mischievous, and inimical to pillars of the law, but they mistakenly thought the "good men in government" could always prevail over them.

as an Italian I can point out that assuming the best in people, for key, essential roles, is a recipe for disaster.

the USA is slowly learning about that and will slowly amend it's rules and institution to work even if evil bastards get in key positions of power, because it will happen many many times.

basing anything crucial in society over "gentlemen agreements" simply doesn't work, you are one evil capable charismatic psychopath away from totalitarianism if you do.


by checkraisdraw P

The problem with this type of sarcasm is that there are real people that believe what you said word for word and further, but fair enough.

You literally had a riot of people chanting “hang mike pence” because of this exact thing lol


Perhaps, but those people don't really matter much, as there is nothing you can say that would get to them. They'd have to want to walk away, and until that happens they'll just continue to look for whatever affirmation they can find.


by Luciom P

The idea of the separation of powers is at the core of the American constitution.

The federal government has far fewer powers than what the left would like it to have, but one of them is the power to decide everything about immigration.

This isn't controversial and it's unclear why you guys claim it is.

This isn't true.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/03/court...

by rickroll P

has there ever been any point in recent american politics history where a candidate so quickly gained popularity as kamala has?

listened to an nyt pod last night that spoke about how it's both a combo of people just happy it's no longer biden and that she's the "generic democrat" in that she's such an unknown there isn't much out there to dislike about her yet

which is shocking because she was deeply unpopular as vp but now as a pres candidat

by Luciom P

A ham sandwich could've replaced Biden without pivoting off of any positions and had the same spike.

by Luciom P

sure, though something is happening to the contrary at the margin right now


If San Fran were cheaper, there'd be a rise. SF population and Kamala efficacy are false correlations.

by rickroll P

re: san francisco

been there a lot for work

know a bunch of people who lived there

everyone i knew complained about how expensive everything was, how they paid 3k a month to live with 3 other roommates etc etc

but it was the only place in the world they could do what they did and earn and 300k a year salaries


work from home has led to a mass exodus of those who were still renting, but many who had already bought a house are locked in and staying

Cities with vibrant economies have homeless people, dude.

by Rococo P

There is no use in pretending that quality of life has not deteriorated in some respects in cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland. I know some people in those cities with very progressive politics who feel that the decriminalization of opioids, in particular, has had a detrimental effect.

I don't think you can pin those quality of life issues on Kamala simply because she used to live and work in San Francisco. In fact, when Ka

Yeah, San Francisco is pretty awesome.

by Luciom P

Another disastrous policy from the Harris campaign has been proposed: 25k lump sum for 1st time buyers (to help with downpayment), more (details unknown) if 1st time in the family.

This is denialism about the fact that housing access is more and more problematic almost exclusively because of supply problems. Working on the demand side is going to make things worse, not better.

It's like leftists can't even comprehend the pie size isn't fixed

A couple or few tax-free years on a 30-year mortgage is hardly radical.


by Playbig2000 P

Kamala claims she's gonna crack down on "Price Gouging" at the supermarket to fight inflation, and also limit the profits of corporations.

Inflation is not caused by price gouging. Price gouging is the raising of goods and services costs to a level that's considered unreasonable and unfair, which is usually due to a local emergency or disaster. The reason we have inflation today is not due to "price gouging". The problem with that logic is

Fixating on the local prices of gas, bread, and milk is a useless gauge on the strength of the currency. Inflation is relative. What matters is not that we're printing money, but that we're printing money at a lower rate than the rest of the world.

Global inflation rate, 2022: 8.8%
U.S. inflation rate, 2022: 6.5%

Global inflation rate, 2024: 5.8%
U.S. inflation rate, 2024: ~3%

Many currencies around the world are facing inflation crises and, yes, we feel some effects of those crises, but the U.S. dollar isn't one of those currencies in crisis and the effects we face are relatively minimal.

Trump gets a lot of credit for the American 1.4% inflation rate of 2020, but what's conveniently left out is that the global rate was also under 2%. What's also (conveniently) left out is that the American 2019 rate was 2.3%, while the global rate was 2.2%.

It's a myth that Republicans are more fiscally responsible than Democrats. Being against all government programs doesn't make you fiscally responsible. What it does is externalize the costs of services from the government at operational costs to the private market at operational costs plus profit, which bleeds the American people deeper.

The alternative to more-than-zero inflation is a dystopian society. Now, if you're against the social safety net for so-called moral reasons, fine, you have the right to be a dick. But there's nothing wise or prudent about spreading inflation myths.





kinda vague gaze imo


But they don't say "Forward". Forward is the key as it is apparently the secret password into the communism club.


I'm looking forward to the day I no longer have to read Luciom's posts.

Also, I would chop off my left arm if that would turn Kamala into a communist. Of course, everybody of any sanity knows she's a million miles from that (in fact, she's a capitalist and Zionist who is quite likely to continue Joe's Israel policy).


This whole thing is so stupid. She's literally just using Obama's imagery and messaging. It's the same image style (and artist) of the Obama "Hope" poster and "Forward" was the slogan of Obama's reelection campaign and this was apparently a poster they were selling at the time, albeit it wasn't as central to the campaign imagery as the Kamala one is:


Apparently some right wing rags tried to push the "Forward" thing being communist at the time too and it was obviously just as nonsensical then.








The horror your scotus link about funds linked to cities being sanctuary cities has nothing to do with the fact that the power to decide which kind of immigration is legal solely rests with the federal government, and not with state or local governments.

That local and state law enforcement isn't necessarily required to help the federal government enforce it's rules, is a state vs fed general matter not limited to immigration, with complicated case law as you well know, and your link is just one of the countless examples of that friction.

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That most people in the democratic partiy would have performed better than Biden in polls v Trump after the debate disaster doesn't mean that personal approval of anyone who became the candidate would jump a lot , it's 2 different things.

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Mortage interests are already tax deductible for the first 750k of mortgage so i don't understand what you mean


by Karl_TheOG_Marx P

I'm looking forward to the day I no longer have to read Luciom's posts.

Also, I would chop off my left arm if that would turn Kamala into a communist. Of course, everybody of any sanity knows she's a million miles from that (in fact, she's a capitalist and Zionist who is quite likely to continue Joe's Israel policy).

Do you know you can put people in ignore? or that a communist can be a zionist and the 2 things are completly orthogonal? Ben Gurion himself was a socialist zionist


In case you were curious cuz I actually sorta was


Of the what feels like 600 million posts ‘ This message is hidden because Luciom is on your ignore list.’ has made, these are the only threads he has posted in outside of politics


i want kamala to take on a policy that even Luciom should be able to get behind..

i want to purchase a car directly from the manufacturer and not have to go through a piece of **** car dealership... it's insane. stop car dealership protectionism.. in almost no state in the US can you buy a car from ford.com or wherever, you are forced to go through a car dealership.


by Slighted P

i want kamala to take on a policy that even Luciom should be able to get behind..

i want to purchase a car directly from the manufacturer and not have to go through a piece of **** car dealership... it's insane. stop car dealership protectionism.. in almost no state in the US can you buy a car from ford.com or wherever, you are forced to go through a car dealership.

She already did, no taxes on tips.

The car dealership insanity is a american specialty (never heard about that elsewhere, certainly not in Italy), but i thought you guys didn't want that because it's one of Musk pet policies.

There are some leftist proposals that i 100% agree with: full liberalization of drug sales at the federal level (at least cannabis), medicare should be able to negotiate all prices of everything all the times it's insane it wasn't since inception, USPS should be allowed to do all banking services, and others.

I am always pro freedom.

But the car dealership nonsense , iirc, is about STATE LAW, and man, please, for the love of god, fight state law battles at the state level, keep the federal government outside of everything the constitution doesn't put it in charge of explicitly.


by Slighted P

i want kamala to take on a policy that even Luciom should be able to get behind..

i want to purchase a car directly from the manufacturer and not have to go through a piece of **** car dealership... it's insane. stop car dealership protectionism.. in almost no state in the US can you buy a car from ford.com or wherever, you are forced to go through a car dealership.

Tesla has no dealerships in any state.

Here is an article about why and how to ...

In general dealerships make money not on sales of cars but on maintenance. In part this is why when I had a Prius I took my car to a mechanic rather than the dealership. I spent more money at the dealership in the first year than with my mechanic for the next 5 years (or more).

Apparently the reason dealership laws went into effect was to protect dealers from manufacturers building dealerships to sell cars. The dealership tried to sign me up for an annual wheel alignment (LOL). That was when I went looking for a mechanic.

The problem moving forward for electric cars is that dealerships are incentivized to not sell them because there is basically very little maintenance required...


by Luciom P

The horror your scotus link about funds linked to cities being sanctuary cities has nothing to do with the fact that the power to decide which kind of immigration is legal solely rests with the federal government, and not with state or local governments.

That local and state law enforcement isn't necessarily required to help the federal government enforce it's rules, is a state vs fed general matter not limited to immigration, with complicat

Immigration is a federal matter, but IIRC, you've brought up locking up politicians who don't enforce federal immigration laws. Was that not you? I could be wrong.

by Luciom P

That most people in the democratic partiy would have performed better than Biden in polls v Trump after the debate disaster doesn't mean that personal approval of anyone who became the candidate would jump a lot , it's 2 different things.

Personal approval of just about anyone would've jumped a lot as the person who is (a) against Trump and (b) out to save the party from Biden. Newsom, Whitmer, Shapiro, Buttigieg. Anyone.

by Luciom P

Mortage interests are already tax deductible for the first 750k of mortgage so i don't understand what you mean

Where I live, $25k would cover 3-5 years of property taxes without the municipality suffering. One, it's not that much money in the grand scheme of things. Two, this sort of relief is a lot of money to do some things to raise the value of the property. Three, first-time homeowners should get tax relief. It seems that municipalities can't afford it, though.


Harris v Trump on polymarket went from 54-44 to 49-49 in the last 3 days.


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