2024 ELECTION THREAD

bc they dont want to get doxxed and harassed and face professional or legal repercussions. isnt it obv?

Ye which is why it should be illegal to cover your face in public, too easy to commit crimes otherwise.

And it is in some jurisdictions. Many places in the USA passed those laws because of the KKK ironically enough.

Law has to be written carefully though because otherwise it can be a violation of the 1a, in the USA. But afaik most anti-mask laws have survived court battles in the USA.

And iirc NYC just re-enacted one in the sub after too many crimes committed by perpetrators who, even if on camera, couldn't be identified because of masks.

I’m actually surprised you’re taking this stance. I assume you think Jan 6 people and Charlottesville people did nothing wrong (ones that did not explicitly break a law) and don’t deserve to be doxxed and fired purely for their political beliefs, which is exactly what Vic is talking about in this context.

There were 43,000 gun deaths last year, which demonstrates how dangerous masks are to society yet how safe guns are, hence of course the conservatives' focus on masks.

Based on his posting history, I would say that Luciom has little tolerance for any sort of protest against government policy, no matter the cause.

I am on record asking the death penalty for the *violent rioters* on jan 6. While afaik outside a single person who got convicted for it, people in Charlottesville didn't commit any crime.

Still their identities shouldn't be concealed from the public when in public in general.

As for the doxxing, private information is private and it's a completly different thing. If you dox a private address (or other private information) it should be a crime, if you contact the employer of someone it isn't, if that job is public information.

Cancel culture is kinda dumb when it goes in stupid waves with grotesque exaggerations but that's up to the institutions canceling, in general it's not smart to try to appease rabid crowds.

But there can be very good reasons to cancel someone , even if no crimes are committed, and i am pro freedom, which includes freedom of association, which includes the right to decide who you associate with in all aspects on your life without having to justify it to third parties ever (yes this includes the right to discriminate for whatever reason in the private sector).

Ofc the public shouldn't be allowed to discriminate on anything.

I am actually libertarian. There is no violation of the NAP in telling people that a person did something, if he did, and if those people decide to discriminate that person for that, that's their freedom in action.

A right of privacy exists but it can't apply to actions you decide to take in public spaces can it?

The privacy laws are written to protect privacy only when there is an expectation of privacy, which effectively means when you're in private places.

Who they are is like the rest of us: tired of the performative bs from the "pro-palestinian protestors" who only seem to protest at the events of the side that is sympathetic to their cause and not the side that is outright hostile to it.

To say their motives are "questionable" would be highly understating things.

Of course they do but none of them covered their faces.

No I think if your going to protest do it proudly . If you lose your job you lose your job fighting for the cause

why would they protest the side that isnt even in power? its your democrats that are sending billions in weapons that are used to mass murder children and break all International Law. it is your side that is working hand in hand to do plausible genocide.

ofc they are sick of hearing about it. they dont like to be faced with their own hypocrisy and will do anything to ignore who they are.

This is that magic moment where the self-professed libertarian drops their mask.

public property is not your property, so you aren't allowed to use it as you see fit. That is compatible with libertarianism , and you not realizing it is not my fault.

whoosh

The billions in weapons required a vote from the house which the republicans decided to have, because having the majority they could have decided to deny the vote.

Not sure if you didn't know that, but now you do. Republicans were fundamental for the latest Israel (and Ukraine) aid. Without them not a penny could have been spent helping Israel.

And with that i mean republican LEADERSHIP. The house speaker could have singlehandedly stopped any help if he wanted to, by refusing to have the house vote on it.

You guys don't protest against republicans because you know it would only help them lol. Not a single republican voter cares about you guys (Even if some agree on palestine). They consider you some of the worst people in society so any attack from you will be seen as republicans doing the right thing.

He must be a new-age libertarian, who believes only the liberties important to him should be protected. That used to be called a Republican, but the English language is dynamic and always shifting.

wat

I have been saying 12319201 times i am more of a classic liberal, but these days libertarian conveys my positions more than republican would, so i define myself as a pragmatic rightwing libertarian.

But for libertarians you don't have rights on other people property (and that includes public property).

yes, the white house can send those weapons and the rest only because the republican speaker of the house allowed the vote on that.

What's unclear about that?

it’s curious to see Donald Trump consistently downplay
the need for votes as part of his Republican candidacy

With early voting in some states less than a month away,
Donald Trump said, “Our primary focus is not to get out the vote.”

Because Kamala Harris is not in power and is the only one calling for a ceasefire and meeting with the protestors. This isn't complicated and I'm surprised you are struggling with it. If you can't figure out why they would protest against Donald Trump and his supporters this topic might be too complex for you.

Kamala Harris is the VP of an administration that is committing some of the gravest crimes of our lifetime. Her and her advisors have stated emphatically that they will continue this policy.

and no, this is not complex. voting for Kamala is voting for mass murder.

Two things about that: 1. no , this administration is doing nothing of the sort, 2. and VPs do not have any type of control over those things.

Literally one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

the sitting VP and presidential nominee has no control over these things he says.

blueMaga is a helluva drug.