2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by lozen P

Do you houseplants not realize that calling attention to Tim Walz providing free period products to those in need does not help your cause? It's hilarious that you think that's an insult.


The words below were taken verbatim from a campaign speech
former President Donald Trump delivered in Potterville, Michigan, Thursday,

She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no —
I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing.
I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right?
But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars.
You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion.
That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it.
Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated.
Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all,
that he was treated worse than any other president.
I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’
I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

Trump’s deteriorating ability to clearly communicate is a consequential feature of his 2024 candidacy.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opin...


by lozen P


This would maybe be effective if Iraq were a just war and Walz was younger than 40 when he retired.

But there's a consensus that Iraq was an unjust war and that Walz adequately did his time.

And it's not like he retired from the Guard to throw his daddy's money around. He retired from the Guard after nearly 20 years of public school teaching to be a Congressman.

I understand the messaging. This is just the wrong dude.


by Gorgonian P

Do you houseplants not realize that calling attention to Tim Walz providing free period products to those in need does not help your cause? It's hilarious that you think that's an insult.

it basically sums up the modern republican party though.


by lozen P

Tampon Tim

Are you 12?


by Gorgonian P

Do you houseplants not realize that calling attention to Tim Walz providing free period products to those in need does not help your cause? It's hilarious that you think that's an insult.

He needs to put more tampons in male washrooms


Trump claims to be for the workers.
And he was MIA/golfing on Labor day?

No tax on tips?
After he tried to steal the tips and give them to the employers?

MAGA Republican group of elected officials are
BASICALLY CALLING KAMALA HARRIS A SLAVE,
to argue she shouldn’t be able to run for president,

Dred Scott decision declaring that a freed slave has no constitutional rights.


by housenuts P

He needs to put more tampons in male washrooms

He didn't put tampons in male bathrooms, houseplant.


by Gorgonian P

He didn't put tampons in male bathrooms, houseplant.

Sorry for your loss


by Gorgonian P

He didn't put tampons in male bathrooms, houseplant.

he actually did though


he may not have written the law

but the law very clearly stated "must be available to all menstruating students."

meaning, if the school had transgender students using the male bathrooms then the school would be required to make tampons accessible and then it would be their decision to either put them in the men's room or perhaps put them in any unisex bathrooms if they were available

this is very clear because there was a measure taken by republicans to re-word the bill to specificy for only women's and unisex bathrooms and that failed to pass - so the language is intentional


so no he didn't issue a blanket order to put tampons in all men's bathrooms, but the law does require them to do it if a transmale is at the school


Fortunately we'll only have to listen to this MAGA crap for a few more months before it becomes just a sh*tstain on American history. Once Trump loses Republicans will finally realize their strategy of conspiracy theories and being the biggest a**holes possible wont win them any more elections.


by weeeez P

Why does it matter to you if there are any form of redistribution?
Isn't banning any form of redistribution what an authoritharian state would do?
How does it hurt you specifically?

Idk, standard oil seemed pretty powerfull back in the day, state even had to dissolve the company...
So was the east india company for europe.


Jp morgan and Rockefeller were has powerful has the president in those days or close to it that’s for sure .

And to quote luciom , they were “unelected “ power house over millions of lives…

Jp Morgan saved the U.S. from collapsing twice if my memory serves me well .


by rickroll P

he actually did though

He actually did not.

by rickroll P


he may not have written the law

The law he signed said absolutely nothing about male students or bathrooms.

by rickroll P


but the law very clearly stated "must be available to all menstruating students."

And districts decided where those would be placed to fulfill that requirement. Guess where virtually none of them put them? You guessed it, mens' bathrooms.

"we found no reports that menstrual products are being provided currently in boys’ restrooms in any Minnesota school district."
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"Legal experts said a school would be compliant if it provided period products only in girls’ bathrooms and unisex or all-gender bathrooms, for example."

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-di...

So can you explain how he put tampons in boys restrooms if there are no tampons in boys restrooms and the law also doesn't require them to be in boys restrooms? I don't think your claim makes any sense at all.


Congratulations on falling for more republican propaganda, though, champ.

Tim Walz signing that law was NOTHING but a positive for kids and parents in Minnesota, so we do appreciate you drawing more attention to it. The lying isn't a good look, though. You should stop that.


by housenuts P

Sorry for your loss

Wasn't aware I had lost anything. Unless you mean Johnny Gaudreau, and then hell yes it sucks.


by pocket_zeros P

Fortunately we'll only have to listen to this MAGA crap for a few more months before it becomes just a sh*tstain on American history. Once Trump loses Republicans will finally realize their strategy of conspiracy theories and being the biggest a**holes possible wont win them any more elections.

I hope you're right, but I'll believe it when I see it 😀


by pocket_zeros P

Once Trump loses Republicans will finally realize their strategy of conspiracy theories wont win them any more elections.



Not really. They won't be able to rap their heads around the loss and they'll just double down on their conspiracy theories. These people are far too deep into the cool aid to all of a sudden wake up and become normal, critical thinkers.
And the race is still far too tight to declare anyone a winner.


by Nepeeme2008 P

Not really. They won't be able to rap their heads around the loss and they'll just double down on their conspiracy theories. These people are far too deep into the cool aid to all of a sudden wake up and become normal, critical thinkers.
And the race is still far too tight to declare anyone a winner.

I'm pretty confident that without Trump the movement dies. Nobody has been able to replicate Trump's mix of appealing to hate and the absolute worst in people while managing to come off charming and likeable, as weird as that sounds.


Maga plans is :
“ Always Do the Right Thing — After Exhausting All the Alternatives”.


by pocket_zeros P

I'm pretty confident that without Trump the movement dies. Nobody has been able to replicate Trump's mix of appealing to hate and the absolute worst in people while managing to come off charming and likeable, as weird as that sounds.

Nobody thought it would be viable for a candidate to be as fundamentally unlikeable, ignorant, uncouth etc. as Trump and garner so much grassroots support. Now that the art of the possible has been established, I feel confident in saying that there will be no shortage of imitators; whether they are successful remains to be seen. Maybe the fat orange ****tard really does have some sort of je ne sais quoi.


by d2_e4 P

Nobody thought it would be viable for a candidate to be as fundamentally unlikeable, ignorant, uncouth etc. as Trump and garner so much grassroots support. Now that the art of the possible has been established, I feel confident in saying that there will be no shortage of imitators; whether they are successful remains to be seen. Maybe the fat orange ****tard really does have some sort of je ne sais quoi.

Trump is a once in a lifetime mad genius who knows how to use the MAGA base. And there will be people who try to imitate him. Let's not forget how Sarah Palin achieved a similar popularity not too long ago. But nobody in the foreseeable future will be able to come close to Trump.
But Trump didn't create this Maga movement. He knows how to take full advantage of it like no other. But when Trump gone, it's not like Tucker Carlson and Hannity are going to start to praise AOC. Fox News isn't going anywhere and neither is their audience.


by pocket_zeros P

I'm pretty confident that without Trump the movement dies. Nobody has been able to replicate Trump's mix of appealing to hate and the absolute worst in people while managing to come off charming and likeable, as weird as that sounds.

I mean Afd in Germany just got 33% or something in some local elections with very not-charming candidates (one even used actually Nazi slogans), maybe Yoh underestimate how much the deep hatred for some of the leftist choices in the last decades motivates people (and how it's just about some politicians to pick them up) rather than the reverse.

It's all bottom up, and all leftist made.

Fix immigration (put a total ban against anyone who isn't very high quality) and the left is a lock to govern in most countries , then elections would just be about which flavour of leftism gets how much power.

Or wait maybe it's better if you don't fix it given what happens if you do.


by Gorgonian P

He actually did not.

The law he signed said absolutely nothing about male students or bathrooms.

And districts decided where those would be placed to fulfill that requirement. Guess where virtually none of them put them? You guessed it, mens' bathrooms.

"we found no reports that menstrual products are being provided currently in boys’ restrooms in any Minnesota school district."
---
"Legal experts said a school would be compliant if it pro

i literally stated that they could do it via unisex bathrooms if those were available

not all schools have those


again, i'm not making any of this up, the law clearly left it up to "if someone in menstruating they need access" and did not mention sex of bathroom, the republicans tried to amend it to specify "women's or unisex bathrooms" and that failed - so it very clearly was a bill with a goal to have tampons in all bathrooms

there's absolutely zero need to lie about that and pretend like the bill didn't specifically require that when measures were taken to stop that very thing and were shut down


if it were fake as you claim, then the measure to specify the gender of the bathrooms where they'd be housed would not have ever arose in the first place

i'm not making any moral judgement or claim, but the bill very clearly paved the way to force schools to put tampons in men's room or to build unisex bathrooms if they didn't have any already


by Luciom P

I mean Afd in Germany just got 33% or something in some local elections with very not-charming candidates (one even used actually Nazi slogans), maybe Yoh underestimate how much the deep hatred for some of the leftist choices in the last decades motivates people (and how it's just about some politicians to pick them up) rather than the reverse.

It's all bottom up, and all leftist made.

Fix immigration (put a total ban against anyone who isn'

Ah yes, the ole "the leftists made me into a full blown Nazi". Lol.

Not particularly original, just a variation on "the democrats made me full blown MAGA" we see here day in and day out.


by d2_e4 P

Ah yes, the ole "the leftists made me into a full blown Nazi". Lol.

That's what is going on in your face right now, it's not an opinion.

Like 80% of the afd voters are so for immigration and crime (which they see interlinked). Only a few for other reasons.

They tell you that every time you ask


by Luciom P

That's what is going on in your face right now, it's not an opinion.

Like 80% of the afd voters are so for immigration and crime (which they see interlinked). Only a few for other reasons.

They tell you that every time you ask

Yeah, when the "leftists" in question are, checks notes, the Democratic party of the USA, I'm gonna go ahead and disbelieve them.


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