2024 ELECTION THREAD

The teamsters thing illustrates the cult. Trump is definitely anti union and yet a majority support him anyway. I'll go to my grave not understanding this.

Biden is also extremely anti-union as evidenced by the rail strike fiasco.

Why is that important?

its why Teamsters dont unilaterally support Dems most likely.

For better or worse, organized labor is no longer strong enough in the U.S. to induce a national politician to pursue unions as a core constituency.

I don't expect to see a national politician from either party channeling the rhetoric of Dick Gephardt any time soon.

Trump: "The audience was absolutely, they went crazy."

The imaginary audience went crazy?

Lol, they won't endorse Harris because their internal polls heavily favored Trump. Which means they are voting Trump.

Something marvelous about the S&P going up 1.8% and Truth Social plummeting to an all-time low makes me happy

Company still overvalued by 2.99 billion tho

Ask railway workers if Biden/Kamala are pro union.

Its the reason they chose not to support either

Almost a 20% swing from the teamsters union since switching from Biden to Harris, first time in 30 years they haven't endorsed a Dem candidate. As suggested after the debate Pennsylvania is in play.

Solid reason to hurry up and replace them with robots.

I truly understand schadenfreude , believe me, i'd wait for the endgame about that though before throwing a party.

I'd like to start this by saying I'm still undecided and have no allegiance to either party. I've voted for Republican, Democrat, and Independent presidential candidates in the past.

That said, my biggest complaint in general (not here necessarily) is the large nunber of people using personal attacks (especially based on appearance) towards the candidates, and then wondering why they can't get someone to take their opinion seriously. There are more than enough complaints without sinking to personal attacks based on appearance and if you can't use those, it makes me wonder about ones ability to think critically.

Social media is full of people on both sides attacking candidates....racists attacking Kamala Harris, or those attacking Donald Trump calling him "orange man", "cheeto", etc.

Am I the only one who finds these things repulsive? It's hard to take a criticism seriously if you attack someone's personal appearance, especially as someone who was bullied in high school.

Just my thoughts. Carry on. I am trying to soak up as much info as I can and make an educated decision before election day.

he can also cash donors money selling them stock

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As regards Trump, probably. He gets what he puts out. You not hear his little nicknames for others? They are often based on physical characteristics.

Of course, who can forget..

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Idk how you can honestly be undecided at this point unless you’ve just had your head in the sand for the past decade.

yes and there's massive levels of fraud in private colleges - the good ones that we all attend and are familiar with are the select few

there are over 2,000 for profit universities in the us which are just degree mills with little to no value to their graduates

if i were charge i'd outlaw those as well - but at least the people attending them are making that idiotic decision on their own whereas with fraudulent primary school it's the children who suffer when the adults make bad decisions on their behalf

wouldn't that be good for the environment though since it's technically recycling?

it's really simple, in a theoretical scenario where if trump walked into a teamsters bar and hung out for an evening with them, he'd fit right in, he may go an unhinged rants, but he speaks like a regular blue collar person using simple words and sentence structures and would not be afraid to talk smack to you in a friendly manner nor receive it either

like here he's just being insulted and is fine with it and goes along with it - it's obviously a bit where they tell the people beforehand what they're doing and ask if it's ok but you see here and he's someone who can interact and chill with regular people - even those a bit more on the "aggro jock" side of the spectrum which of course many teamsters will find themselves aligned

compare that to this

look how artificial it is, this is not an organic human reaction, they are patronizing her much like you would if you played a special needs child with leukemia in dominos and their make a wish was to play dominos and they are surrounded by staffers with her staffers outnumbering these commoners she's supposed to be interacting with like 3:1

meanwhile kamala hangs out with regular people sometimes but like hilldawg there's more aides and camera crew than people and it's very much like a tv set rather than a regular interaction

the og clinton was very good at interacting with randos organically

biden and obama were both pretty good at interacting with normies as well, especially obama who perhaps did it better than any president we've ever had

but i digress

do you think for one second that kamala would feel comfortable hanging out in a teamsters bar? not her and her team of aides and camera crews, just her walking in solo? nor that she'd get along with people and be able to react well when they say mean things to her when she misses her pool shot?

same problem hillary had, remember this meme of her seeing what a kitchen in harlem looks like?

this is the only reason why they are voting for trump, because trump is someone they can visualize hanging out with and not kamala

in b4 it's because they're racist and hate women

Obama is an egghead, but I think he was great at hanging out with people because he has a legit sense of humor.

It is impossible at this point in the election cycle to not have a 100% choice.

Agreed. The irony is that Trump wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with any of his supporters, at least any of the non-wealthy / non-celebrity ones.