2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
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luciom, may i suggest in your next trip to america you go visit scenic detroit
That the USA has lost its ability to shift people around is a disgrace but it happened a lot before Detroit.
Problem is stopping accepting creative destruction, which is what is happening lately.
Cowen calls it the "complacent society". You have to keep grinding, destroying cities when they aren't useful anymore (or downsizing them heavily as much as needed) and move your asses around following opportunity.
That's what worked for your country since inception, if you want to become Europe you stay put when jobs disappear, complain, burn things down and wait for the government to subsidize your laziness for the rest of your miserable life.
Probably a positive for maga.
I don't write posts to offend you, but you need to write and say things for people to see your opinions. I might have repeated what you think, but not what you wrote.
It is a common mistake to "westernize" Russian and Soviet history, and assuming traits and characteristics easily carry across. This is a mistake a lot of historians do and it is a mistake that happens daily in contemporary media. It is also exacerbated by our exposure to Russia and Soviet history mostly being the side that is turned towards us.
While hypothetical history is obviously a game of "never say never", Stalin and most of the men in power at that time in the CCCP seems to be the kind that are severely disadvantaged by cameras, articles and free speech. Not really a problem they faced, which is why they could kill at an industrial scale and still be popular.
He'd probably do well in a drug cartel though.
ok this is something i'm onboard with
however, i do think he'd be able to adjust and adapt just fine into a democratic society with free press but agree it's wildly theoretical - like all revolutionaries, he needed to blessed by the rng simulator, in a multiverse i believe that ccp and cccp both win their revolutions most of the time - but in very few of those outcomes do stalin nor mao ever live long enough or rise high enough to be anything more than a brief snippet mentioned in wikipedia - people like them were incredibly fortunate to get where they got - but you still need to acknowledge that they were still highly skilled and really good at what they were doing to have accomplished what they did - both had dozens of their own party members at their throats at all times as well as external forces trying to take them out and both made it to the end
afterall, his goal wasn't killing millions of rivals, it was acquiring power and in the system he was in, that was the best way to go about it - in a democratic system i'm sure he'd adjust and let his charm, wit, and track record of getting things done win voters over
but i think my greater point stands that if we were in a position of voting for stalin vs gandhi right now and they were starting with a fresh slate ie we don't know stalin is a mass murdered yet - then i have zero doubts that gandhi would be considered the candidate who was evil
Detroit is actually pretty awesome now. One of the final frontiers of affordable housing.
The reason housing is affordable is that the population never recovered from the economic nuke dropped on the city. So your point largely stands. But the populated areas have finally bounced back quite a bit.
I once posted about being in downtown and some one told be to be careful and I was like bro, I'm standing next to a yoga studio.
lol 😉
nice, glad the downtown part has rebounded at least
ie stalin and mao did the equivalent of winning the wsop where they needed to hit a lot of 1 outers to do it - but they did it like tamayo or mckeehan did it as highly skilled pros who exploited small edges and ran very well rather than jamie gold or jerry yang
in the multiverse tamayo still wins the main event a few times every couple thousand sims, jerry yang and jamie gold never do it again
if we resim for stalin and mao, like tamayo they don't win nor even final table most of the time, but they'll be winning it quite a few times and it won't be a fluke
And the rest can rot it's not like it's Roman acqueducts or something worth preserving.
Hey guys, remember that one time, in downtown Detroit, when Robocop shot dude in the dick?
d2 - you see why hicks and rednecks love fishing with me now, you know they must love talking about that stuff 😀
Getting shot in the dick?
I saw Robocop 2 the other day and it sucked. No one got shot in the dick at all.
see that's why they'd love you
i bet you've memorized the entire schtick of yakoff smirnoff and gallagher as well and they adore you for it
in fact, if you made it into a puppet act you'd be the #1 act at branson missiouri
Couldn’t have happened to a worse person 😀
I just read the article. He's almost certainly cooked.
He was cooked before as well polling at like -14 in a break-even state
Well, we are a baby country so we don't have stuff like that. But Detroit has some great architecture, a lot of it fell into disrepair and they actually are restoring and preserving it.
Calling yourself ‘the black Nazi’ on a porn website message board?
Party of family values indeed
MLK times twooooo
I can only go by what you wrote
Your "biggest complaint" was definitely social media based. And yes, if you want to stay undecided, waiting for a candidate who's supporters are never hypocritical or engage in personal attacks will achieve that goal.
the duality of man
The protectionists always act like their side is some unassailable moral good and it makes me mad.
I would understand them better if they were protecting actually awesome jobs.
Like, I do understand why European countries fight tooth and nail to have the seat of european agencies: those are well paid veeeeery comfortable jobs and congresses, conferences, rich people coming in, that I can understand fighting to keep.
But mindless droning in repetitive endeavours all your life? Even if paid more than usual for low education people (which btw isn't even that true anymore, you need to specialize in fairly complex roles) who would wish that for their kids?
I was wondering if this guy was actually dragging down Trump's numbers in NC. Even before this stuff he was a really bad candidate.
It's hard to imagine, but yeah, it's possible that he was diminishing Trump rather than the other way around.