2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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its so funny to read posts on here and then see them refuted indisputably almost immediately.

here are the Dems leaving a left wing party member out to dry after racist attacks on her. arent the Dems the party of minority rights and inclusivity?


by checkraisdraw P

That has absolutely nothing to do with your claim. Are you ok dude?

Oh you want the claim clarified as "controlled by the democratic party or believing the same set of ideas the DNC push for regularly and behaving exactly as if they were paid actors for the DNC even if that happens organically because they all happen to agree with every single thing the democratic party decides to push at every single moment," ok.

Man they were ALL with "Biden is very sharp", one week later they all changed their minds (and not after the debate, after the DNC said Harris was the candidate).

Jfc are we living in the same reality?


i really think you guys need more bill maher in your lives


by rickroll P

i really think you guys need more bill maher in your lives

Which is a comedian, not news.

He was more balanced than I expected and he started way earlier, I accept that.

And the democratic party hated it deeply and he is now being called bad names by the left


by Luciom P

And for the food suppliers it is trust behavior, not gouging (which wouldn't be illegal at the federal level, unlike price coordination which is).

Which the Biden-Harris DOJ per your article was trying to prosecute 1 year ago.

How is that going?

Antitrust suits are complicated and sometimes take years to prosecute. Much longer than the average attention span of a hot take like yours.

by Luciom P


Even Trump can say true things, like the fact the media is owned, controlled and directed by the democratic party with very few exceptions

Yeah few exceptions like how the most successful "news" media company is conservative. More of the same victim mentality nonsense talking points by conservatives.


by Luciom P

Which is a comedian, not news.

He was more balanced than I expected and he started way earlier, I accept that.

And the democratic party hated it deeply and he is now being called bad names by the left

politics is best stomached through the lens of comedy - but he's never really been a comedian, more of an angry guy yelling at clouds in humoring manner


Checkraise do you agree than any journalist sticking with "Biden is fine and sharp of mind" AFTER THE DEBATE without individually acknowledging immediately he was completely ****ed up, lost his credibility forever on any topic and proved a toxic allegiance to the worst components of the DNC?

Literally "I am saying this because I haven't received orders to the contrary yet from the DNC" level of allegiance.

That those people should never again for the rest of their miserable lives be trusted about ANYTHING AT ALL, and with them, their employers?

It's hard to be worse than that in journalism. You need to reach Alex Jones levels to compete.

Visual and audio proof of something which is obvious for any normal IQ listener and viewer, and you deny it? That's Pravda level, Orwell level of evil.


by Luciom P

Not even Bernie is enough for you?

even talking Bernie sincerely he is a social democrat and a capitalist.

but hes really not even that and is just ruling class controlled opposition as luckbox perceptively alleged and I argued against years ago.


by steamraise P

He did this at an event on antisemitism.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/do...

A silver-spoon billionaire saying he hasn't been treated very well in his life..to an audience of the one of the most persecuted people in history. The man is a complete moron.


by pocket_zeros P

A silver-spoon billionaire saying he hasn't been treated very well in his life..to an audience of the one of the most persecuted people in history. The man is a complete moron.

You’re too kind .


by pocket_zeros P

A silver-spoon billionaire saying he hasn't been treated very well in his life..to an audience of the one of the most persecuted people in history. The man is a complete moron.

I would be surprised if the millionaires and billionaires from this group have been so persecuted all that much in their lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Am...


hmm, I would guess that many of the people in that crowd actually agree with him.

oh well looky here...


its hard being right all the time.


by Luciom P

Oh you want the claim clarified as "controlled by the democratic party or believing the same set of ideas the DNC push for regularly and behaving exactly as if they were paid actors for the DNC even if that happens organically because they all happen to agree with every single thing the democratic party decides to push at every single moment," ok.

Man they were ALL with "Biden is very sharp", one week later they all changed their minds (and

by Luciom P

Checkraise do you agree than any journalist sticking with "Biden is fine and sharp of mind" AFTER THE DEBATE without individually acknowledging immediately he was completely ****ed up, lost his credibility forever on any topic and proved a toxic allegiance to the worst components of the DNC?

Literally "I am saying this because I haven't received orders to the contrary yet from the DNC" level of allegiance.

That those people should never agai


I’ll be honest, I’m not brain poisoned by whatever media sources you’re looking at, because what I saw after the debate was an entire panel of MSNBC panelists basically saying Biden got stomped and should drop out. So I have no idea who you are watching that are saying that Biden’s debate performance wasn’t utterly devastating.

There was certainly speculation on whether it would strategically be a good idea for Biden to drop out which has nothing to do with whether Biden performed like utter trash in the debate. I will admit myself I wasn’t sure if Biden should drop out because I wasn’t certain if Biden’s horrible performance and clear cognitive decline was enough to counteract his incumbent advantage, but I thought rather quickly that if Biden does drop out he should be replaced by Kamala.

And again this has absolutely nothing to do with your original claim and you are triggered as hell right now because you know that the original claim is indefensible and stupid, so instead you’re going on some unrelated rant about Biden’s cognitive decline.


by Victor P

I would be surprised if the millionaires and billionaires from this group have been so persecuted all that much in their lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Am...


hmm, I would guess that many of the people in that crowd actually agree with him.

oh well looky here...


its hard being right all the time.

i understand it can be hard for them when victor is right but not understanding Trump was talking to a specific subset of very right-wing American rich Jews , who wholly agree with him left-leaning Jews are actually suicidal friends of antisemites, is insane.

American jews in politics aren't a monolith and never were and although they systematically skew democrat for various reasons, 1) Harris is polling the worst among them than any Democratic presidential candidate since the 80s, and 2) trump was there for donations FROM THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE so ofc he had to push the wedge that divides their community, with those present agreeing with him wholeheartedly, and other american jews elsewhere strongly disagreeing.

leftwing Jews and people who agree with them will ofc consider trump recent remarks antisemitic.

right-wing Jews and those who agree with them do consider Jews who vote and donate to the left blood traitors or something like that, people who help the enemy who wants to genocide them. at least that was the Adelson take for many years.


The funny thing for myself personally is the claim by far right people like luciom thinking that I ( and I presume others as well here ) are influenced massively by media’s…..

Personally I never listen msnbc and the like , i think I saw more clips from foxnews the any other media’s on YouTube just to see how insanely stupid trump and his parots like hannity are ….

But I guess it comes down to the false equivalence principles , because we (maga) act and think like this everyone would act like us concept …

I (we?) don’t need journalist with an agenda to from an opinion on how bad trump is , we just look at him and it’s so obvious ….
I guess maga does it because they need every excuses possible to vote for trump to protect their reality of -> it’s never their own fault but others to explain their misery ..


by Victor P

I would be surprised if the millionaires and billionaires from this group have been so persecuted all that much in their lives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Am...



And yet with all that collective wealth Israel still hangs in a precarious position of nations wanting to destroy it, so the point you thought you were making about their wealth is meaningless. Trump isn't a persecuted race.

by Victor P


hmm, I would guess that many of the people in that crowd actually agree with him.

oh well looky here...



You think it's noteworthy that a group will be openly agreeable to the man promising protection from their mortal enemies? What do you think those same attendees say about Trump behind close doors? Probably the same things the Fox News personalities said him, as revealed during the discovery phase of the Dominion case.

by Victor P


its hard being right all the time.

Which explains why you're unable to achieve it even some of the time.


by pocket_zeros P


Which explains why you're unable to achieve it even some of the time.

Nice.


by Montrealcorp P

The funny thing for myself personally is the claim by far right people like luciom thinking that I ( and I presume others as well here ) are influenced massively by media’s…..

Personally I never listen msnbc and the like , i think I saw more clips from foxnews the any other media’s on YouTube just to see how insanely stupid trump and his parots like hannity are ….

But I guess it comes down to the false equivalence principles , because we (ma

I am not sure you are particularly influenced by American media tbh and I don't think I claimed that.

you are a very normal European centrist (which means a leftist in the USA). I know you are Canadian but Quebec politically is European in terms of extremes and center.

being Canadian protects you from some American insanities on both sides, as it does for europeans, and as for ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN MANY DECADES, you as all other Quebec or European citizens will feel they are too right-wing.

trump is also stupid, talks trash, very politically incorrect, he lies a lot even with nothing to gain to do so and so on, so ofc you are repulsed by him.

you don't need journalists to convince you o believe you.

but the median American is far to the right of you. like far. far. your actually very right-wing friends in Quebec if you have any are normal Americans ok?

the normal American thinks 20% of income tax is insane if you aren't super rich.


Bro just called a group of rich Americans in the 2020s some of the "most persecuted people in history".



by Victor P

Bro just called a group of rich Americans in the 2020s some of the "most persecuted people in history".

no he called Jews as a group that, and they were historically, actually nothing comes close.

they had more years to be persecuted because unlike most other groups subjected to the same extreme systematic violence, they kept existing as an identifiable group.

but it's not close in human history throughout time, Jews got persecuted for longer than any other cultural/religious/ethnic group ever was.

all the others either ceased to exist soon enough because of the persecutions, or gained power enough to become those who persecuted others (see christians after centuries of roman persecution)


by Victor P

Bro just called a group of rich Americans in the 2020s some of the "most persecuted people in history".

Bro just demonstrated his poor command of the English language.

by pocket_zeros P

A silver-spoon billionaire saying he hasn't been treated very well in his life..to an audience of the one of the most persecuted people in history. The man is a complete moron.

Oxford:

people: the men, women, and children of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group.


The people he was talking to were rich Americans.


by Luciom P

I am not sure you are particularly influenced by American media tbh and I don't think I claimed that.

you are a very normal European centrist (which means a leftist in the USA). I know you are Canadian but Quebec politically is European in terms of extremes and center.

being Canadian protects you from some American insanities on both sides, as it does for europeans, and as for ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN MANY DECADES, you as all other Quebec


The normal American is to the right of the normal European, this is true. It has nothing to do with your unsubstantiated claim that the media, including AP freaking news, is “militarily own[ed] and control[led]”. And has “lied incessantly at every step to help democrats in the last 20+ years”

Your party media, the media you guys militarily own and control, the media who want Harris to win above everything else, who lied incessantly at every step to help democrats in the last 20+ years, said

That position is so insane I have no idea why you are trying to defend it even. It’s the type of statement only a brain-poisoned partisan hack would make. Maybe if you called out some specific media source then we could analyze it, but no you’re talking about AP freaking News of all media companies. Jesus.


by checkraisdraw P

The normal American is to the right of the normal European, this is true. It has nothing to do with your unsubstantiated claim that the media, including AP freaking news, is “militarily own[ed] and control[led]”. And has “lied incessantly at every step to help democrats in the last 20+ years”

That position is so insane I have no idea why you are trying to defend it even. It’s the type of statement only a brain-poisoned partisan hack would ma

I might be wrong on the timeline for AP because I admit it looked fine in say 2010 but it has been occupied militarily by leftists at least in the last 6-7 years.

AP is truly the Pravda these days, has been for COVID and climate change, the 2 main wars we are fighting against leftists


by Victor P

The people he was talking to were rich Americans.

And the people I was referring to were Jews. Here, I drew it for you:



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