2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
Do you accept or dent the fact that some ideologies are genocidal and complete incompatible with society and if enough people believe them and act on them they are a direct threat to society?
Do you agree that happens and you disagree with me about Marxist greens being such, or do you deny that ever happens or can happen?
I find it almost impossible to take you seriously when you start using this sort of wild hyperbole.
You are certainly correct that the phase is associated with the Soviet Union. It's also associated with fascism, especially as it relates to opposition press.
I guess it would be most accurate to say that the phrase is broadly associated with authoritarianism.
The idea that any society which doesn't fully tolerate all direct enemies of itself living within is authoritarian is pure folly.
Having antibodies and using them isn't authoritarianism.
You guys are suicidally empathical if you can't come to your senses and accept that domestic threats can arise and legal, authorized violence is necessary to wipe them out.
Btw your side does accept that except they go fully Orwellian and claim the extreme right is such threat lol, even if the polar opposite is objectively true
I should use "threat to democracy" which is identical but it's what your side uses yes.
Some people are inimical to core elements of society and it's not fascism to identify them as such and permanently solve the threat
I don't think you are going to help your cause much by shifting your focus to talking about permanent solutions to threats.
The idea that any society which doesn't fully tolerate all direct enemies of itself living within is authoritarian is pure folly.
Having antibodies and using them isn't authoritarianism.
You guys are suicidally empathical if you can't come to your senses and accept that domestic threats can arise and legal, authorized violence is necessary to wipe them out.
Btw your side does accept that except they go fully Orwellian and claim the extreme rig
Who thinks that domestic threats don't exist? Who thinks that no steps should be taken to address domestic threats?
The point is that you no longer even appreciate the extent to which you have incorporated authoritarian rhetoric with dark connotations into your daily discussion of politics.
Or maybe you just don't care.
The point is that you no longer even appreciate the extent to which you have incorporated authoritarian rhetoric with dark connotations into your daily discussion of politics.
Or maybe you just don't care.
Don't mean to blow your mind here, Roc, but have you considered that the dude turboposting Nazi **** knows he's a Nazi?
Who thinks that domestic threats don't exist? Who thinks that no steps should be taken to address domestic threats?
You guys that attack me because I define a domestic threat and solutions for it on the topic itself rather than trying just to claim the specific threat I identify isn't , for you, a threat.
You aren't contesting my threat assessment, you are saying I am fascist because I identify a domestic threat and I want the state to fix that with legal state violence.
So, if you accept domestic threats can exist and they should be dealt with by state violence, why don't you just discuss whether radical environmentalists are such a threat or not instead of calling me a fascist?
So why am I being called a fascist to generalize the idea that democracies need to have those solutions in place to deal with threats in general?
If your claim is that millions of people whose ideas would.utrerly destroy society and make us live like animals aren't a threat to be dealt with on par as neonazis, claim that, the hell has this to do with fascism?
In general why are you ok with dealing with neonazism as an existential threat to society and not neomarxists which are at least as bad and much much much more numerous?
So why am I being called a fascist to generalize the idea that democracies need to have those solutions in place to deal with threats in general?
If your claim is that millions of people whose ideas would.utrerly destroy society and make us live like animals aren't a threat to be dealt with on par as neonazis, claim that, the hell has this to do with fascism?
In general why are you ok with dealing with neonazism as an existential threat to so
Whoosh.
On the off-chance that you are not just acting obtuse:
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Hey guys, stop calling me a fascist just because I’m a fascist. It hurts my feels :(
Jailing and killing all political opponents doesn’t meet the definition of fascism in Luciomtopia because the leader says it doesn’t.
To be clear, I don't agree with your assessment of the threats either. Abrupt abandonment of fossil fuels isn't practical or a good idea for many reasons, some of which you mentioned. But people who want to push the world in the direction of more environmentally friendly sources of energy are directionally correct, even if some of them are unrealistic about the timeline.
To be clear, I don't agree with your assessment of the threats either. Abrupt abandonment of fossil fuels isn't practical or a good idea for many reasons, some of which you mentioned. But people who want to push the world in the direction of more environmentally friendly sources of energy are directionally correct, even if some of them are unrealistic about the timeline.
ye the "comrades with the heart in the right place" who just "slightly err in assessment", they simply request us to fully suicide economically causing more destruction and human suffering than a nuclear war, but think of the biodiversity they would preserve, they aren't a threat.
btw they don't want nuclear and hydro
Luciom, do you understand that you are being called a fascist at least in part because of the rhetoric you employ? I explained this to you at the time of the "Sieg Heil" post months ago, actually, so I expect the answer is "yes", but would be good of you to confirm.
If you want people to quit calling you a fascist, then you probably should avoid banging on about "enemies of the people."
Trump also uses it for the media when they exercise their first amendment rights and cover his corruption, incompetence and all around poor performance.
Trump also uses it for the media when they exercise their first amendment rights and cover his corruption, incompetence and all around poor performance.
Yep, when I expressed outage at that about 8 years ago, I was reliably assured by the likes of bahbah that he is just stupid and doesn't know what he's saying or he is just being quoted out of context or something something stop calling him a fascist.
If I'm running the Trump campaign, I think I'm pretty tempted to backtrack and agree the 2nd debate. Trump was so bad in the first one, expectations for him will be so low. I know he's the master of not meeting the lowest of expectations, but I;m not sure what else they can do.
