2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
The words are not wrong, some people just have a blind spot and think the word "fascist" means exclusively "Nazi". I agree it's overused, but it's apt here. Fascism is a sub-category of right wing authoritarianism.
Agree.
Fascism isn’t a word solely defining nazis Germany .
I wonder what are the many difference between a far right authoritative leader and fascism in Rickroll mind.
It must be pretty big to not see many similarities .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#:~....
Authoritarianism is considered a core concept of fascism and scholars agree that a fascist regime is foremost an authoritarian form of government, although not all authoritarian regimes are fascist.
Fwiw I find the constant denying of the 2 is a bit strange since an American should be radically oppose to any form or authoritarian leadership , whether being left or right , communist /fascist or not.
They are both terribly wrong and a whole lot not in accordance of American democratic ideology and ….”freedom”.
It's interesting to think about eh. If he doesn't spread his cheeks for Ukraine to come in NATO, does Putin invade? I'm not so sure. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine before 2022?
I enjoyed Trump on the all-in pod. I also enjoyed RFK and Dean Phillips. Wonder if Biden will go on. Guessing not. Would be nice to hear.
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Crimea ?
see, you're dealing with the limits of your imagination and not reality
under this same exact logic we can argue that obama and biden are secretly fascists but the table was never set for them to act
ducy?
Nop I don’t see any policies , ideology, rhetoric of any kind from them fitting fascism .
And I don’t see them praising dictators and authoritarian leaders like Putin, XI etc either like trump does do and envy them…..
You're still doing it. Nobody has claimed he did enact anything fascistic in his first term (the closest was Trolly mentioning the Patriot Act in a reply to you but I don't know what he was getting at with that given that was passed in 2001) but you insist on arguing only against this claim that nobody has actually made.
If you want to make your point then talk about what people are actually claiming - things like his rhetoric having fascist
Well seem we are in 2016-2020 presently I suppose.
Do u believe fascism can’t be foreseen but only be acknowledged when it’s implementation is done ?
we have 4 years of presidential policy that is a very good example of what to expect more or less from 4 more years but you're ignoring that to play a "what if game"
that is emotionally driven fear mongering not fact based discussion
do i like him? no
should he be in jail for treason? yes
should he be allowed to run for a 2nd term? no
is he a fascist? no
we have 4 years of presidential policy that is a very good example of what to expect more or less from 4 more years but you're ignoring that to play a "what if game"
that is emotionally driven fear mongering not fact based discussion
do i like him? no
should he be in jail for treason? yes
should he be allowed to run for a 2nd term? no
is he a fascist? no
Sure, that's an entirely reasonable argument to make, but you've not been making that argument. All you've been doing is arguing against a point nobody has made.
If you want to ask why people think a future term will be so different from the previous term then do that. Just don't keep parrotting a question about the past without that context though because it is inane, annoying, and ultimately useless at making the point you are trying to make. Address what people are actually saying and explain why you think their fears are unjustified.
Again, we saw what Trump did during his first term, and especially when it was about to end. This whole onboarding information thing doesn't seem to last very long with you.
lol. i onboarded it.
that's not my primary concern.
my main concern is crypto friendliness. fwiw Trump was not particularly friendly during his first term. his treasury secretary Mnuchin was outwardly hostile. he seems to have changed his tune. could be just words.
but biden/warren and others in the democratic ranks (not all, mostly just the olds) are outwardly hostile. they need to go.
on top of those concerns, i don't support these forever wars, and i'd like to see more domestic growth. cut back all the red tape. the administrative state is a nightmare.
Trump trying to maintain power in 2029 is low on my list of cares.
lol. i onboarded it.
that's not my primary concern.
my main concern is crypto friendliness. fwiw Trump was not particularly friendly during his first term. his treasury secretary Mnuchin was outwardly hostile. he seems to have changed his tune. could be just words.
but biden/warren and others in the democratic ranks (not all, mostly just the olds) are outwardly hostile. they need to go.
on top of those concerns, i don't support these forever wa
Turning a blind eye that you might be supporting a dictator because you agree with some of his current policies is dumb and shortsighted. When he changes his mind about crypto, or the next guy comes along who has different policies, you won't have the option of agreeing or disagreeing any more.
So one assumes you're a big fan of the guy who ended the forever war Republicans started.
I wouldn't necessarily say the Republicans started it. Yes, Bush was President, but the authorization to use force was 420-1 in the House and 98-0 to in the Senate. Biden was a big supporter of it.
I'm happy he got out of it. I'm not particularly thrilled with the way he did it. Many more lives were needlessly lost.
I'm certainly not a big fan of the guy.
But why are you so keen on the guy who made lots of noise about getting out of Afghanistan before he became president then didn't do anything about it when he was actually president?
What does crypto friendliness mean, i.e. what specific policies or policy proposals?
Sure, but we're talking about what factually did happen and not what you would say happened.
Ok lets talk about what actually happened. 518 American politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, including Joe Biden, not including Donald Trump, supported starting the war in Afghanistan. 1 person, a democrat from California, did not.
Except that the post you said that in implies that your dislike of forever wars is an additional factor in favour of Trump on top of the crypto stuff. Even the justification for Trump being better for crypto is very thin.
Also why are you asking so many questions here when you clearly don't care at all about the answers you receive and are going to just justify supporting Trump based on flimsy evidence that he'll be better for your crypto investments.
- create a sensible regulatory framework for it
- end the senseless regulation by enforcement regime by Gensler/Warren
- end chokepoint 2.0
- allow developers to write open-source code without the fear of being jailed if someone uses that code
- don't veto sab121 even though solid majority of house/senate approved it
- allow fed, fdic, occ to positively engage with crypto companies/banks supportive of crypto
- stablecoin legislation
Honestly Nuts, I get how "I'm a one-issue voter and crypto is my thing" is an embarrassing thing to admit, but it's so much less embarrassing than this patently dishonest nonsense you've been hitting us up with.
- create a sensible regulatory framework for it
- end the senseless regulation by enforcement regime by Gensler/Warren
- end chokepoint 2.0
- allow developers to write code without the fear of being jailed if someone uses that code
- don't veto sab121 even though solid majority of house/senate approved it
- allow fed, fdic, occ to positively engage with crypto companies/banks supportive of crypto
- stablecoin legislation
So Trump has said he will do all that? I know nothing about crypto or its legislation, but surely if legislation is your concern, then the composition of the legislative branches is more important than who is president, no?
Could you provide some backstory on who has been jailed for writing code, and what that code did? As a programmer, I certainly wouldn't want to risk going to jail for writing an application for a client.
I'd love to hear how GOP is better for tech. That's the most wild **** in this thread.
So Trump has said he will do all that? I know nothing about crypto or its legislation, but surely if legislation is your concern, then the composition of the legislative branches is more important than who is president, no?
Could you provide some backstory on who has been jailed for writing code, and what that code did? As a programmer, I certainly wouldn't want to risk going to jail for writing an application for a client.
https://www.coincenter.org/coin-center-f...
Storm's case is ongoing, and should be dropped, but his co-founder Pertsev is facing 64 months in Dutch jail.
GOP is supportive of the open source software community. I mean that's bizzaro ****. What planet is you from?
https://www.coincenter.org/coin-center-f...
Storm's case is ongoing, and should be dropped, but his co-founder Pertsev is facing 64 months in Dutch jail.
How will a Trump presidency affect this case and possible future cases like it?
Also, you didn't respond to my question as to how a Trump presidency affects the other legislation you cited.
