2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by housenuts P

I truly am curious. My view is Biden (and Warren) is 100% the wrong path forward. I'm trying to figure out what's so bad about Trump.

I don't have a problem with some questioning of various election anomalies. I agree he took it too far and continuing to state the election was rigged is dumb.

Staying in power in 2029....LOL. Again not worried about that and I don't foresee it happening.

More concerned about foreign wars and domestic growth.


What war did Biden start ?

Do u really believe the globalize world economy the US was able to implemented through those ressources wasn’t beneficiary to the US ?


by housenuts P

I'm pro-choice. The abortion issue is very annoying to me. Both seem to prefer it as a forever election issue. Dems could've codified it under Clinton in 93 or Obama in 2009. They didn't. Why not?

It’s always a good shtick to pummel vs the republicans I suppose while believing the US couldn’t ever revert back to middle age policies shrug

And then idiots took control of the helm .


by rickroll P

i'm still waiting for you to name policies and laws he pushed forward that are fascist

He probably needed to clear the house first before engaging in them.
His done that, table is set.
And now is got full immunity thx to his friend on the SC.
Project2025 with all his associate in it are coming.

At least once it happens I guess you will gladly agree , “well he did it.”
But unfortunately at that point it is to late .

But now if u can’t see how his prior intentions and actions are fascist , well fine….
It’s ok to be blinded.


by housenuts P

I truly am curious. My view is Biden (and Warren) is 100% the wrong path forward. I'm trying to figure out what's so bad about Trump.

I don't have a problem with some questioning of various election anomalies. I agree he took it too far and continuing to state the election was rigged is dumb.

Staying in power in 2029....LOL. Again not worried about that and I don't foresee it happening.

More concerned about foreign wars and domestic growth. Bi

As has been pointed out to you "questioning election anomalies" and "inciting your supporters to violently storm the capitol to prevent the democratic transfer of power" are not the same thing.

Many other criticisms of Trump have also been presented in answer to your question. You are purposely pretending they haven't and homing in on one you think you can paraphrase to sound weak and unreasonable, although you are mistaken even in this case.


by d2_e4 P

inciting your supporters to violently storm the capitol

I don't like this claim, but I guess everyone has their own definition of what inciting means


by housenuts P

I don't like this claim, but I guess everyone has their own definition of what inciting means

Unfortunately, the fact you don't like it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.


by housenuts P

I don't have a problem with some questioning of various election anomalies. I agree he took it too far and continuing to state the election was rigged is dumb.

This is a gross understatement of what Trump did. And it was a lot worse than dumb.

I think Trump will bring a lot of troops home

From where? We obviously have military stationed abroad, but which ones do you imagine that he will bring home?


by d2_e4 P

Unfortunately, the fact you don't like it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

Source?


by Montrealcorp P

He probably needed to clear the house first before engaging in them.
His done that, table is set.
And now is got full immunity thx to his friend on the SC.
Project2025 with all his associate in it are coming.

At least once it happens I guess you will gladly agree , “well he did it.”
But unfortunately at that point it is to late .

But now if u can’t see how his prior intentions and actions are fascist , well fine….
It’s ok to be blinded.

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post


by housenuts P

Source?

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...


Recommended charges for Trump were obstruction of an official proceeding; conspiracy to defraud the United States; conspiracy to make a false statement; and attempts to "incite", "assist" or "aid or comfort" an insurrection.


by d2_e4 P

I'm sure you can read through the Jan 6th committee findings yourself if you're interested.

I could also read through the Warren Commission report on JFK assassination if I wanted to as well.


by housenuts P

I could also read through the Warren Commission report on JFK assassination if I wanted to as well.

What's your point?

I've edited my post to quote the findings relevant to your question. I assume the question was in good faith and now that you've been provided the source, you'll of course concede the truth of the assertion, right?


Some bold claims being made in the last 2-3 posts.


by rickroll P

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post

You do realise the original claim you were disputing was that the Republican party was becoming more fascistic right? I don't think anyone has actually claimed that he enacted fascistic policies in the first term - the main blatantly authoritarian thing he did was rejecting the election results. What the main claims actually are are that the rhetoric is continuing to move further in that direction; moves in red states to make it easier to prevent the smooth transision of power since 2020 align with that rhetoric; and that the 2025 project contains the seeds of a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.


by Willd P

You do realise the original claim you were disputing was that the Republican party was becoming more fascistic right? I don't think anyone has actually claimed that he enacted fascistic policies in the first term - the main blatantly authoritarian thing he did was rejecting the election results. What the main claims actually are are that the rhetoric is continuing to move further in that direction; moves in red states to make it easier to p

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

it's half ignorance over what fascism actually is and it's half needless fear mongering - the new version of moving to canada


by rickroll P

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

Patriot Act.


by rickroll P

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

it's half ignorance over what fascism actually is and it's half needless fear mongering - the new version of moving to canada

If they said "right wing authoritarian" instead of "fascist" would this help with your blind spot?


He murdered an American via military strike without any type of trial.


Doesn’t get worse than that


by rickroll P

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

it's half ignorance over what fascism actually is and it's half needless fear mongering - the new version of moving to canada

Sure, but you're arguing against something that was never claimed. If you want to make that point then ask about what they actually said, i.e. what is happening that you think makes them seem like they're moving towards being more fascist. Asking about the past when people are talking about current rhetoric and the direction it's moving in is not making any sort of useful point.

Edit: You actually started by asking a reasonable question - "what specific fascist policies are they trying to implement" - but then pivoted to asking about the past when you got an actual answer rather than responding to the answer you were given.


tbf the jan 6 stuff was chapter one paragraph one fascism


by Montrealcorp P

What war did Biden start ?



by rickroll P

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post

Yes I just said the table wasn’t set in his 1st term to enabling fascism policies .
But hey a full immune president will help get you there (him putting his pawns up) .
So no worry your wish is about to happen .


by housenuts P

So that's zero wars started by Biden.


by housenuts P

Ah ok, i thought u mean his presidency .
Well Biden wasn’t president before but u can put it all on him.
Mind as well put the entire political members in there 2.
I agree US been many times a warmonger country for a very long time.
And since its citizen are the one electing them on there , it’s a bit funny citizen after came back and do not include themselves to be warmongering shrug.


by Trolly McTrollson P

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

Exactly


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