2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by housenuts P

I don't like this claim, but I guess everyone has their own definition of what inciting means

We can draw up his speech again if u like ?


by Trolly McTrollson P

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.


by housenuts P

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.

Since you're such a curious little kitten who just ignores answers he doesn't like here, why don't you ask your AI friend about the insurrection Trump started as well.


by housenuts P

not sure why you quoted my post.

I don't know why I bother at all sometimes.


by Montrealcorp P

We can draw up his speech again if u like ?

here you go



by d2_e4 P

Since you're such a curious little kitten who just ignores answers he doesn't like here, why don't you ask your AI friend about the insurrection Trump started as well.

what are you talking about?

i said he's a warmonger. he supports all wars. i never said he started any. montrealcorp asked that specific question for some reason.

AI friend seems to show he has been a key supporter of many. it also doesn't include Ukraine yet, but yes, Biden did start America's involvement/resources in that. Arguably was responsible for the whole war starting anyways.

See my last post from AI friend about insurrection. You can try too: venice.ai


by housenuts P

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.

Well I learn something today about Biden by himself started a war while not even being president …..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers....

The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war,

I wonder why he didn’t again when he was president himself ?


by Trolly McTrollson P

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

Biden is doing a (plausible) genocide in Gaza so I dont think now is a very good job to defend his war tendencies.


by housenuts P

Read it.

Seems people care greatly.

lol greatly? Like 3 people are responding and nobody has spent more than 3 minutes typing up a post. I’ve spent hours on forum posts before. Nobody in this conversation remotely cares enough to do that.


by housenuts P

what are you talking about?

i said he's a warmonger. he supports all wars. i never said he started any. montrealcorp asked that specific question for some reason.

AI friend seems to show he has been a key supporter of many. it also doesn't include Ukraine yet, but yes, Biden did start America's involvement/resources in that. Arguably was responsible for the whole war starting anyways.

See my last post from AI friend about insurrection. You can

The claim you "didn't like" and asked for a source for is stated in the answer given by your AI, as well as relevant parts of the Jan 6th report. So now that it has been sourced, have you changed your mind?

You came here claiming to be on a quest for information. You were given some information. You asked for it to be sourced. It has been sourced. So have you onboarded this information or not?

Because if not, I wouldn't expect too much engagement here going forward. Engagement is a two-way street.


by d2_e4 P

If they said "right wing authoritarian" instead of "fascist" would this help with your blind spot?

yes


by rickroll P

yes

Just mentally swap out the words then, and it all starts to make sense.


by Willd P

but then pivoted to asking about the past when you got an actual answer rather than responding to the answer you were given.

not a single person has mentioned a single law or policy that is fascist that happened in trumps first term

i'm not a fan of his, but he's not done a single fascist thing


by housenuts P

here you go


Here is the real speech …
Not a resume .

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848...


Knowing how those maga have a 5 sec attention time span….
The end of the speech :

But now, the caravans, I think Biden's getting in, the caravans are forming again. They want to come in again and rip off our country. Can't let it happen.

As this enormous crowd shows, we have truth and justice on our side. We have a deep and enduring love for America in our hearts. We love our country.

We have overwhelming pride in this great country and we have it deep in our souls. Together, we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Our brightest days are before us. Our greatest achievements, still away.

I think one of our great achievements will be election security. Because nobody until I came along had any idea how corrupt our elections were.

And again, most people would stand there at 9 o'clock in the evening and say I want to thank you very much, and they go off to some other life. But I said something's wrong here, something is really wrong, can have happened.

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.


And 3 hours of no reactions from the president during this insurrection , watching tv and enjoying it .

Ho yes he was against that revolt of course .
His actions says so….despite numerous attempt by his family , advisors etc to plead him to intervene and he didn’t .


by d2_e4 P

The claim you "didn't like" and asked for a source for is stated in the answer given by your AI, as well as relevant parts of the Jan 6th report. So now that it has been sourced, have you changed your mind?

You came here claiming to be on a quest for information. You were given some information. You asked for it to be sourced. It has been sourced. So have you onboarded this information or not?

Because if not, I wouldn't expect too much engage

information is onboarded. thank you.


"Biden started the Russian invasion of Ukraine" is a fun take.


by Montrealcorp P

Yes I just said the table wasn’t set in his 1st term to enabling fascism policies .
But hey a full immune president will help get you there (him putting his pawns up) .
So no worry your wish is about to happen .

see, you're dealing with the limits of your imagination and not reality

under this same exact logic we can argue that obama and biden are secretly fascists but the table was never set for them to act


ducy?


by d2_e4 P

Just mentally swap out the words then, and it all starts to make sense.

the people using the wrong words should stop

if i started calling you thai transgender sex worker then would you just "mentally swap that out" and say "he really means british degen" or would you bother to correct me?


by rickroll P

the people using the wrong words should stop

if i started calling you thai transgender sex worker then would you just "mentally swap that out" and say "he really means british degen" or would you bother to correct me?

The words are not wrong, some people just have a blind spot and think the word "fascist" means exclusively "Nazi". I agree it's overused, but it's apt here. Fascism is a sub-category of right wing authoritarianism.


by rickroll P

not a single person has mentioned a single law or policy that is fascist that happened in trumps first term

i'm not a fan of his, but he's not done a single fascist thing

What about the time he pressured the GA secretary of state to overturn the state's election results?


by rickroll P

not a single person has mentioned a single law or policy that is fascist that happened in trumps first term

i'm not a fan of his, but he's not done a single fascist thing

his administration’s policy is that it was ok to murder innocent Americans via military drone strike without their American right to a trial.

He killed at least two Americans. One was a minor. I think Obama did the same.


by rickroll P

not a single person has mentioned a single law or policy that is fascist that happened in trumps first term

i'm not a fan of his, but he's not done a single fascist thing

You're still doing it. Nobody has claimed he did enact anything fascistic in his first term (the closest was Trolly mentioning the Patriot Act in a reply to you but I don't know what he was getting at with that given that was passed in 2001) but you insist on arguing only against this claim that nobody has actually made.

If you want to make your point then talk about what people are actually claiming - things like his rhetoric having fascistic leanings, red states making it easier to prevent the transfer of power, and the content of the 2025 project.


by rickroll P

not a single person has mentioned a single law or policy that is fascist that happened in trumps first term

i'm not a fan of his, but he's not done a single fascist thing

Well seem we are in 2016-2020 presently I suppose.
Do u believe fascism can’t be foreseen but only be acknowledged when it’s implementation is done ?


by Trolly McTrollson P

"Biden started the Russian invasion of Ukraine" is a fun take.

It's interesting to think about eh. If he doesn't spread his cheeks for Ukraine to come in NATO, does Putin invade? I'm not so sure. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine before 2022?

I enjoyed Trump on the all-in pod. I also enjoyed RFK and Dean Phillips. Wonder if Biden will go on. Guessing not. Would be nice to hear.


by housenuts P

Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine before 2022?

He kinda did?


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