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ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by lozen P

That has to be a question posed to him at the Presidents debate

by biggerboat P

LOL @ trump ever debating anyone again.

Trump has gone on record that he willbdebate biden

I'm willing to bet anyone that biden will refuse to debate trump


by lozen P

oh he will be debating Biden and I am sure as often as he can. If anyone will be trying to dodge debates it will be Joe

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/43...

Biden will not commit to debate Trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/tr...

Trump willing to debate biden under any circumstances


..,


by metsandfinsfan P

Trump has gone on record that he willbdebate biden

ummmm.... yeah. The list of stuff that he's promised to do and didn't is enormous. But you trumpers still suck it up. Remember how it all started with making his taxes public?

I'm willing to bet anyone that biden will refuse to debate trump

I have a feeling there's a catch here. Biden might not agree to some sort of terms for a particular debate, but he won't not debate him at all.

so, we'll see


Curious mets. Do you think trump should have total immunity?


by biggerboat P

so, we'll see

Im pretty sure they will pull the msnbc card and say they don't approve of giving him a stage to spread lues


by biggerboat P

Curious mets. Do you think trump should have total immunity?

Believe it or not I've followed very little of the trial stuff

I don't think he's guilty of jan 6 riots but dont think he should be immune per se

I think it's political bs though

And if Trump wins, the repubs then try to prosecute biden?

I hate all this ****


by metsandfinsfan P

Im pretty sure they will pull the msnbc card and say they don't approve of giving him a stage to spread lues


Believe it or not I've followed very little of the trial stuff

I don't think he's guilty of jan 6 riots but dont think he should be immune per se

I think it's political bs though

And if Trump wins, the repubs then try to prosecute biden?

I hate all this ****

"Trump is a controversial political figure ergo any prosecution of him must be political" is a pretty puerile take.


by metsandfinsfan P

I think it's political bs though

Inciting an insurrection is "political bs?" Can you expand on this?

by metsandfinsfan P

And if Trump wins, the repubs then try to prosecute biden?

What's your point? Dems shouldn't hold Trump accountable to the law because future Republicans might abuse the system and engage in bad-faith prosecution of Biden? Sounds like a great reason to never vote for a single Republican if that's how they roll.


say what you will about trump, but the debates are what won him the election


by rickroll P

say what you will about trump, but the debates are what won him the election

The stupidity of the average voter is what won him the election.


by rickroll P

say what you will about trump, but the debates are what won him the election

His ratings took a hit vs Biden, IIRC. They possibly also cost him the election.


A total lack of shame and free admission of grabbing Miss America contestants by the pussy?

People like me just sort of wrote that off as Trump being insane for the sake of cameras, but turns out a lot of people just straight up loved the overall vibe.

We're going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it is rhetorical GOLD. The fact that he turned out to be all hat and no cattle should've turned more people off, but the left went too far and attacked all Trump voters personally, so those voters are overlooking the lack of results.

"I'LL****INDOITAGAIN.jpg" - Trump base, 2024


Will see what happens with this Georgia case . The DA appointed a prosecutor that had no experience in this type of case and the accusation is she was sleeping with him. As well he was paid over $600,000 which he used to take her on trips as he is in the middle of a divorce


by Inso0 P

A total lack of shame and free admission of grabbing Miss America contestants by the pussy?

People like me just sort of wrote that off as Trump being insane for the sake of cameras, but turns out a lot of people just straight up loved the overall vibe.

We're going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it is rhetorical GOLD. The fact that he turned out to be all hat and no cattle should've turned more people off, but the left went too f


I always thought his comments on McCain would kill him .

He only has a chance because the democrats are going with Biden


by Brian James P

You don't think a compilation of Rachel maddow lying her ass off is funny?

I do. I think it's hilarious.

They had to go back years ago ?

Jfc we had like 5-6 persons easily every day on fox news for years lying crazy **** everyday !

I look at that clip and like meh .


by metsandfinsfan P

I'm willing to bet anyone that biden will refuse to debate trump

How much ?


by metsandfinsfan P

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/tr...

Trump willing to debate biden under any circumstances


..,

Of course trump has nothing to lose and everything to gain shrug

What happens to trump when he got nothing to gain and everything to lose in a debate ?
He just do not debate aka republicans debates for the nomination shrug .

So what so great a point u try to tell us ?


Trump argues he never swore to 'support' the Constitution at his inauguration

and so, he’s not subject to the provision disqualifying people who violate their sworn support

Since presidents swear to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution, this section doesn’t apply to him.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-hou...


Wapo article


Former president Donald Trump is lobbing racially charged attacks at Republican rival Nikki Haley, a daughter of Indian immigrants who served as his U.N. ambassador, days before a hotly contested New Hampshire primary that could determine the trajectory of the party’s nominating contest.

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In a lengthy post on his social media platform Friday, Trump gave his GOP rival a nickname that appeared to be yet another racist dog whistle.

Writing on Truth Social, Trump repeatedly referred to Haley as “Nimbra,” an apparent intentional misspelling of her birth name. Haley, whose parents moved to the United States in the 1960s, was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa.


Reminiscent of his spurious claims about former president Barack Obama’s citizenship, Trump also last week spread a false “birther” claim about Haley when he shared a post on Truth Social from the Gateway Pundit, a far-right website that propagates baseless accusations.


The post falsely suggested Haley was ineligible to be president or vice president because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born. This is not true. The Constitution states that a natural-born citizen can be president, and Haley automatically became a U.S. citizen when she was born in South Carolina in 1972.

Trump’s use of Haley’s birthname comes as the topic of racism has emerged as a flash point among Republicans on the campaign trail, with Haley recently asserting that the United States is not and never was a racist nation. She earlier stirred controversy for comments in which she initially did not identify slavery as the cause of the Civil War.


Friday wasn’t the first time Trump has mocked Haley’s name. After the Iowa caucuses on Monday, Trump embarked on a tirade against Haley, misspelling her given first name.

“Anyone listening to Nikki ‘Nimrada’ Haley’s wacked out speech last night, would think that she won the Iowa Primary,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “She didn’t, and she couldn’t even beat a very flawed Ron DeSanctimonious, who’s out of money, and out of hope. Nikki came in a distant THIRD!” (DeSanctimonious is a Trump nickname for another GOP rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.)

Even before the campaign began, Haley repeatedly stated that she has always gone by her middle name, which is Punjabi for “little one,” and that she changed her last name to Haley after marrying her husband, Michael Haley.

Trump, whose mother migrated to the United States from Scotland, has a history of using a rival’s name or background as a tool in his efforts to make rivals sound like they are not fully American. During the 2016 presidential race, he referred to Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.), who was then a GOP presidential candidate, by his first name, Rafael. He also repeatedly mispronounced and drew out the first name of Kamala D. Harris, now the vice president, on the 2020 campaign trail.

Trump also built favor with the extreme right of the Republican Party when, in 2011, he began floating racist and baseless claims about President Barack Obama not being born in the United States, and he frequently emphasized Obama’s middle name, Hussein.

Asked Friday on the campaign trail if Trump’s attacks against her are racist, Haley said in New Hampshire that she would “let the people decide” what the former president means.

“He’s clearly insecure. If he goes and does these temper tantrums, if he’s going and spending millions of dollars on TV, he’s insecure, he knows that something’s wrong,” Haley said. “I don’t sit there and worry about whether it’s personal or what he means by it.”

When asked about Trump repeatedly referring to Haley as “Nimbra,” Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said in an email to The Washington Post, “Can you tell me how [Trump’s Truth Social] post would even be construed as racist?”

When provided with a list of examples of how Trump has tried to “otherize” his foes by emphasizing their race or background, Cheung added, “Sounds like those who take offense are engaging in faux outrage racism. They should get a life and live in the real world.”

Civil rights leaders denounced Trump’s remarks as a racist appeal to White people, who make up more than 92 percent of the population in New Hampshire, according to the latest Census figures.

Elder James Johnson, head of the Racial Justice Network in South Carolina, said Friday that Trump’s remarks are his way of saying “she is not one of us, that she is a Brown person, that she is not a White person.”

By referencing the birth name Haley has not used in public life, Trump is “sending a message to white nationalists,” Johnson said, who offered that he is “not a fan” of Haley overall.

Another civil rights activist said the racism behind Trump’s behavior is obvious.

“Why is he actually even using this name? What purpose does it serve?” asked Anthony Poore, president and CEO of the New Hampshire Center for Justice and Equity, a racial and social justice organization.

Poore said Trump’s record — dating back to when he and his father were found guilty of housing discrimination against Black people, to attacks on Obama’s place of birth — make clear what he is doing.

Trump “uses white supremacy to advance his political agenda,” Poore said, adding that the former president is “using these bogeymen — or 'bogeynames’ — to rile up hatred.”

The attacks on Haley come as she has continued to defend the notion that the United States is not a “racist country” and has “never been a racist country.”

“Are we perfect? No,” Haley said on Fox News on Tuesday. “But our goal is to always make sure we try and be more perfect every day that we can.”

Haley was responding to a question about a viral moment from MSNBC host Joy Reid, who on Monday said the former governor is “still a Brown lady that’s got to try to win in a party that is deeply anti-immigrant. … I don’t see how she becomes the nominee of that party.”

Haley said she and Reid must live in “different” Americas. Haley’s father, Ajit Singh Randhawa, is a professor of biology who got his PhD at the University of British Columbia and later moved to Bamberg, S.C., a segregated town where Haley was born, to teach at nearby Voorhees College — a historically Black university.

Haley told Fox News that although she faced racism as a “Brown girl that grew up in a small rural town in South Carolina,” she became “the first female minority governor in history, who became a U.N. ambassador and who is now running for president.”

“If that’s not the American Dream, I don’t know what is,” Haley continued. “You can sit there and give me all the reasons why you think I can’t do this. I will continue to defy everybody on why we can do this, and we will get it done.”

During a CNN town hall Thursday night, Haley defended her characterization of the country after host Jake Tapper pressed her on America’s history, noting that the country had been founded on “many racist precepts,” including slavery.

“We had plenty of racism that we had to deal with,” Haley responded, referring to her childhood in a small rural town. “But my parents never said we lived in a racist country. And I’m so thankful they didn’t. Because for every Brown and Black child out there, if you tell them they live or were born in a racist country, you’re immediately telling them they don’t have a chance.”

She acknowledged that America had its “stains” but said that “national self-loathing” was “killing” the United States.

“I want every Brown and Black child to see that and say, ‘No, I don’t live in a country that was formed on racism. I live in a country where they wanted all people to be equal, and to make sure that they had life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’” Haley told CNN.

Trump’s emphasis on Haley’s birth name and his questioning of his eligibility to run for president have mostly been isolated to social media.

At his campaign rallies, Trump has used the nickname “Birdbrain” to refer to Haley but hasn’t made changes to her actual name or suggested she isn’t eligible to be president. He has ramped up his attacks on Haley in recent weeks, ahead of the New Hampshire primary, where she is polling second and has the endorsement of Gov. Chris Sununu (R).


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by metsandfinsfan P

Wapo article


Former president Donald Trump is lobbing racially charged attacks at Republican rival Nikki Haley, a daughter of Indian immigrants who served as his U.N. ambassador, days before a hotly contested New Hampshire primary that could determine the trajectory of the party’s nominating contest.

Cut through the 2024 election noise. Get The Campaign Moment newsletter.
In a lengthy post on his social media platform Friday, Trump gave

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by metsandfinsfan P

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/43...

Biden will not commit to debate Trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/tr...

Trump willing to debate biden under any circumstances

We can save time and just copy paste the debates from 4 years ago about how Biden was not going to debate. They made just as much sense then as now.


by Trolly McTrollson P
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tl:dr for you- trump is racist and sexist. or maybe trump isn't himself(he is) and he just knows republicans are racist and sexist and LOVE THIS ****. we knew this in 2016.


by ecriture d'adulte P

We can save time and just copy paste the debates from 4 years ago about how Biden was not going to debate. They made just as much sense then as now.

This time the committees are asking the biden campaign to committ to debates so they can plan and be isn't

by Slighted P

tl:dr for you- trump is racist and sexist. or maybe trump isn't himself(he is) and he just knows republicans are racist and sexist and LOVE THIS ****. we knew this in 2016.

I took out if it that he finally sees Haley as a threat so its resorting to his childish mamecalling


by ecriture d'adulte P

We can save time and just copy paste the debates from 4 years ago about how Biden was not going to debate. They made just as much sense then as now.

The debates worked for Trump in 2016 largely thanks to Hillary broadly disliked. In 2020 it was a disaster for his ratings. Republicans spent months hyping the debates and claiming Biden would be too senile to show up and Trump just shat the bed.


by metsandfinsfan P


I took out if it that he finally sees Haley as a threat so its resorting to his childish mamecalling

there's no threat to trump from any republican. he's playing the greatest hits to the crowd. he's going to dumpster Hailey in her own home state.


by rickroll P

say what you will about trump, but the debates are what won him the election

What is your basis for this statement?


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