2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by Slighted P

i got a fool proof way to stop them from paying cartels. if that ever actually was your real concern.

It is of course possible for pretty much anyone to get on a plane and come to the US-- no cartels needed--- you just need to meet the visa requirements in some cases or come from a visa exempt country. But plenty of people from mexico, central, and south america travel legally to the US all the time.

I would be all for eliminating visa requirements myself but it would probably make those flights back a lot more expensive.


by Rococo P

Saying "c'mon guys" doesn't make it so. On several occasions when he was running for president, including one time during a debate if my memory is correct, Biden was asked point blank whether he would promise to implement the progressive version of student loan forgiveness. He always refused, much to the irritation and frustration of progressives in the party.

Actually both Biden and Pelosi said it would not hold up to a supreme court ruling and congress has to pass .

Gave lots of students false hope. Fix the system that education costs that much instead of forgiving student loans


by Slighted P

i got a fool proof way to stop them from paying cartels. if that ever actually was your real concern.

HR 2 is a non starter. it's awful and dehumanizing which is the intent because republicans hate brown people. and in fact would be even more awful for those migrant children you are pretending to care about.

I would be curious what your fool proof method would be ?


by lozen P

Not true that was a different incident as there were three of them back when nobody had cell phones . When asked if there were others his reply I do not know . Lets add in the sexual assault of a reporter and his Bollywood dressup but you guys give him a pass cause he is a lefty

No one knew what blackface was?

blackface, i had no idea wtf it was in 2000 and no one i know of either.
i had to search it and again even Hollywood
(Hollywood !!!!! huge lefty business yah ?)
made a movie with a black face in 2008 called tropic thunder .
blackface was not a thing by a million miles on the radar.

other event was even prior then what u alluded too.

w.e makes u happy on why u think i gave him a pass.
hIs not even portraying a black ffs.
its a freakn Maharaja, a freakn KING of some sorts !
what insulting about that ?!?!?!

it as nothing to do with right or left, only people like u that try to politicized everything do so and think like u do.


by Rococo P

Saying "c'mon guys" doesn't make it so. On several occasions when he was running for president, including one time during a debate if my memory is correct, Biden was asked point blank whether he would promise to implement the progressive version of student loan forgiveness. He always refused, much to the irritation and frustration of progressives in the party.

He clearly wanted voters to believe he would do something, but he didn't want to

worked here


by Montrealcorp P

blackface, i had no idea wtf it was in 2000 and no one i know of either.
i had to search it and again even hollywood made a movie with a black face in 2008 called tropic thunder .
blackface was not a thing by a million miles on the radar.

other event was even prior then what u alluded too.

w.e makes u happy on why u think i gave him a pass.
hIs not even portraying a black ffs.
its a freakn Maharaja, a freakn KING of some sorts !
what insulting abo

So you vote for a party that wants to separate from Canada


by lozen P

Actually both Biden and Pelosi said it would not hold up to a supreme court ruling and congress has to pass .

I don't know what these words mean when placed in this order.


by lozen P

So you vote for a party that wants to separate from Canada

whataboutism
but no, i vote for a party to prevent all other political parties to elect a majority in the parliament because they all idiots and i dont trust them with a majority !
Not necessarily for independence.


by Slighted P

those counter-protest chants are WEIRD and are definitely making things worse, imo.

Is there some missing context to this or something. Chanting 4 more years is something that has seemed to be a thing for as I can remember.


by formula72 P

Is there some missing context to this or something. Chanting 4 more years is something that has seemed to be a thing for as I can remember.

Victor was referencing cease-fire people protesting Biden events. countering a "cease-fire now" chant with "four more years!" to try and drown the humanitarian chant out sends a weird message.


by lozen P

I would be curious what your fool proof method would be ?

let people in. eliminate the market. make aslyum easier and quicker not harder like your hr2 would do. make immigration easier. what the border ACTUALLY NEEDS is more administrative judges, lawyers, and paralegals/clerks to process immigration and asylum requests. not more racist border patrol, illegal razor wire, and vigilante state immigrant hunters.


by Slighted P

let people in. eliminate the market. make aslyum easier and quicker not harder like your hr2 would do. make immigration easier. what the border ACTUALLY NEEDS is more administrative judges, lawyers, and paralegals/clerks to process immigration and asylum requests. not more racist border patrol, illegal razor wire, and vigilante state immigrant hunters.

Yeah that's silly.

Just put them on planes. There are flights from San Salvador to LA, Houston, or Miami. Tickets are cheap.


by Luckbox Inc P

Yeah that's silly.

Just put them on planes. There are flights from San Salvador to LA, Houston, or Miami. Tickets are cheap.

but then politicians and famous people wouldn't be able to do fanfiction photoshoots at the border, and border patrol wouldn't get their fix of playing god in the detention centers.


by Slighted P

let people in. eliminate the market. make aslyum easier and quicker not harder like your hr2 would do. make immigration easier. what the border ACTUALLY NEEDS is more administrative judges, lawyers, and paralegals/clerks to process immigration and asylum requests. not more racist border patrol, illegal razor wire, and vigilante state immigrant hunters.

You may end up with 5 billion people than


yeah open borders just doesn't jive with reality


Trump to kill Immigration Deal

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/...


Here's a thought why not tell us what's in this glorious bi-partisan deal


by steamraise P

Trump broke immigration and won't let anyone fix it. The GOP is blaming the nearest Democrat.

If Republicans are truly looking for whom to blame for chaos at the border and beyond, they should look in the mirror.

It’s been almost a decade since the last bipartisan attempt at reform,
and that effort was stymied by Republicans, not Democrats.

House Republicans are still rejecting the idea of a compromise

Republicans want a return to the very Tru


This is a troll right


the worst part about it is that just because the predominant immigrants now are mostly black and hispanic, we get this false attribution to stances on immigration being rooted in racism

we forgot that our founding fathers used to go on and on about how terrible it was that non native english speakers were coming over

Ben Franklin used to complain about the Germans coming to Pennsylvania and genuinely feared the colony would lose its English culture and language and become a little bavaria

likewise the italians, irish, spanish, & scandinavians all faced strong backlash and resentment themselves when they represented major immigrant groups


its not about race, it's about large groups of people who are wholly foreign coming over and changing the culutral landscape of the area

my finnish & swedish great grandparents could barely speak english because they lived in a part of nyc that was all finns and swedes

likewise, my german great grandparents themselves never learned english and also lived in a german speaking neighborhood of nyc

fresh hordes of germans and nordic people stopped coming over so the germanic invasion solved itself - forcing their children no other option than to adapt and americanized even though they only learned english once they entered the school system - had continued influx of fresh immigrants from their land continued, they may have never americanized

much the same you get certain immigrant communities in america which retain their language and culture after multiple generations, creating a massive gulf between parts of america just blocks apart

but i promise you that if we replaced all the immigrants coming over with white europeans that none of the positions on immigrations from the overwhelming majority of the population is changed because this is about language and culture not at all about race and you're just aimlessly virtue signalling with assumption if you think otherwise


by rickroll P

the worst part about it is that just because the predominant immigrants now are mostly black and hispanic, we get this false attribution to stances on immigration being rooted in racism

we forgot that our founding fathers used to go on and on about how terrible it was that non native english speakers were coming over

I've got some rather unfortunate news to share with you vis-a-vis the Founding Fathers and their views on race.


by lozen P

You may end up with 5 billion people than

usa#1. we created a lot of the situations in which people are claiming asylum from, only right to let those people in.


by Trolly McTrollson P

I've got some rather unfortunate news to share with you vis-a-vis the Founding Fathers and their views on race.

it's ACKSHUALLY xenophobia not specifically just racism. checkmate libtard.


by Slighted P

it's ACKSHUALLY xenophobia not specifically just racism. checkmate libtard.

virtue signal away, carry on sir


by rickroll P

virtue signal away, carry on sir

yes. my position on immigration is morally superior to most of the other people's opinions in this thread. therefor you could call it virtue signaling by the literal definition i guess. you pointing out that the anti-immigration people are actually xenophobic and not necessarily just racist isn't any kind of own or "enlightened" above it all position.


ok man, you win, enjoy

reality doesn't matter, logistics and policy and effects means nothing, it's all a simulation and you have the superior moral position, congrats bruh


by rickroll P

ok man, you win, enjoy

reality doesn't matter, logistics and policy and effects means nothing, it's all a simulation and you have the superior moral position, congrats bruh


its not about race, it's about large groups of people who are wholly foreign coming over and changing the culutral[sic] landscape of the area

what is this, if not xenophobia?


most of us posting here won the geographic lottery through none of our own effort. it's morally repugnant to prevent others from experiencing a share of our unearned blessings.


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