ex-President Trump

ex-President Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at low-info Boomers like my religions aunts. I have two questions:

a) Is anyone here who supports Trump bothered by lies like this?

b) Does anyone know what he's even talking about here? Like is there some grain of truth that he's embellishing on bigly?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by StoppedRainingMen P

I’m curious if and when and under what circumstances we arrive at biden telling trump ‘go away quietly and I’ll pardon you’

I have to imagine this is on the table election night. And I can’t argue against it

People realize Gavin Newsom is going to be the candidate, yes? Those wheels are already in motion. Don't klll the messenger, but that is going to be happening. Not saying I like it or agree with it, but that is highly probable.

If anyone were to pardon Trump, it would be a horrible mistake because he would then just bloviate all day on Truth and work to continue to undermine democracy in the US, all while still holding a MAGA grip on entire Republican party.


by 27offsuit P

You realize Gavin Newsom is going to be the candidate, yes? Those wheels are already in motion. Don't klll the messenger, but that is going to be happening. Not saying I like it or agree with it, but that is highly probable.

If anyone were to pardon Trump, it would be a horrible mistake because he would then just bloviate all day on Truth and work to continue to undermine democracy in the US, all while still holding a MAGA grip on entire Rep

Biden and the people controlling him will do almost anything to stay in power. And the military industrial complex is ok with that


by StoppedRainingMen P

“The sudden death of Alexei Navalny has made me more and more aware of what is happening in our Country,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. “It is a slow, steady progression, with CROOKED, Radical Left Politicians, Prosecutors, and Judges leading us down a path to destruction. Open Borders, Rigged Elections, and Grossly Unfair Courtroom Decisions are DESTROYING AMERICA. WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE, A FAILING NATION! MAGA2024.”

Neato

To my point about the majority of Trump supporters being certifiable morons - you pretty much have to be, to vote for someone who writes like a 13 year old texting for president.


by PointlessWords P

There is no guarantee


I can’t find the clip but before he was elected they asked Biden if he would jail trump for his crimes and he said word for word that “that isn’t a standard I’d like to start upholding… I don’t think we should be jailing former presidents”

Sounds like he was making a joke.


by d2_e4 P

To my point about the majority of Trump supporters being certifiable morons - you pretty much have to be, to vote for someone who writes like a 13 year old texting for president.

Still, I wonder how long it takes for trump to walk this back or clarify. As it stands what he’s done is confirm the belief that Navalny was imprisoned and murdered on the orders of Putin for no other reason than being the opposition by way of equivocating this to make it a donald trump thing. He can’t even make this **** about himself without pissing off the wrong people


by StoppedRainingMen P

Still, I wonder how long it takes for trump to walk this back or clarify. As it stands what he’s done is confirm the belief that Navalny was imprisoned and murdered on the orders of Putin for no other reason than being the opposition by way of equivocating this to make it a donald trump thing. He can’t even make this **** about himself without pissing off the wrong people

He has? He can't even write coherently so I didn't really understand wtf he was trying to say. I just read it as his usual "there is this thing that happened somewhere in the world that people are talking about so I should mention it in passing BUT HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME!!!"


by d2_e4 P

He has? He can't even write coherently so I didn't really understand wtf he was trying to say. I just read it as his usual "there is this thing that happened somewhere in the world that people are talking about so I should mention it in passing BUT HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME!!!"

I certainly don’t think he was trying to say that, which is what makes it hilarious, but if he’s equating himself to Nalvany there’s no other interpretation other than Putin killed Nalvany and that’s what Biden’s doing to him


by PointlessWords P

Can’t tell if you’re trolling. Are you saying you’re not aware that companies steal billions of dollars from their employees via wage theft?

You said the law was well-enforced. If billions are stolen continually, then it's not being enforced much at all, right?

What does that have to do with your, "Oh, I worked an extra 30 minutes the other day and that wasn't reflected on my paycheck so I'll just correct the oversight by helping myself to the cash register today" scenario?

Obviously what I'm saying is if you're shorted, let someone know so they can correct it. If they refuse to, quit. Balancing the books through illicit means just complicates things.


by 27offsuit P

People realize Gavin Newsom is going to be the candidate, yes? Those wheels are already in motion. Don't klll the messenger, but that is going to be happening. Not saying I like it or agree with it, but that is highly probable.

If anyone were to pardon Trump, it would be a horrible mistake because he would then just bloviate all day on Truth and work to continue to undermine democracy in the US, all while still holding a MAGA grip on entire

It's possible, but if you think it's "highly probable" I might be interested in some action


by d2_e4 P

To my point about the majority of Trump supporters being certifiable morons - you pretty much have to be, to vote for someone who writes like a 13 year old texting for president.

Are you saying that's unpresidented?


by Luciom P

Are you saying that's unpresidented?

l00K aT Me i aM vERy VerY pResIdEntIaL


In historians' Presidents Day survey, Bi...

Which cites this study where DT continues so much winning in #45!


by Rococo P

My post wasn't clear. I was focusing on how much you do or do not care about democratic principles. You have suggested that the actions Trump took after the election were not much of a threat and not that big a deal. IMO, that position implies a lack of intelligence, a lack of understanding, or a lack of concern. You don't seem unintelligent. I was speculating that the third option was more likely that the second option, but I could be w

Ok thank you for the kind words.

To clarify my position better, if american democracy can't hold steady with trump elected (which I think it would, easily, you disagree with this assessment), it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place nor to lead the world.

So for me it's either a bad model undeserving of existing gets thrown out, or the actually strong and resilient American democracy keeps going (like during and after the first trump term).

Either case we don't lose.

No election result should ever be able to nullify democratic pillars, unless it's 70-30 among the population and the 70 wants an end to it, in which case it's just what people do and you have to comply


by StoppedRainingMen P

I nominate lozen

Your out of you're mind. Their is no way he could handle the responsibilitee.


by jjjou812 P

Your out of you're mind. Their is no way he could handle the responsibilitee.

Hmm I thought it was responsibility ?

I do not think Biden should pardon Trump anyways


by Land O Lakes P

You said the law was well-enforced. If billions are stolen continually, then it's not being enforced much at all, right?

What does that have to do with your, "Oh, I worked an extra 30 minutes the other day and that wasn't reflected on my paycheck so I'll just correct the oversight by helping myself to the cash register today" scenario?

Obviously what I'm saying is if you're shorted, let someone know so they can correct it. If they refuse to,

Can you quote where I said that?

So In your scenario, which is not the one I said, you worked 30 minutes and haven’t been paid for it. And in your scenario you are saying it is not morally ok for the worker to take the money from the till if the company says we acknowledge you worked 30 minutes but we will not pay you the money that the law requires us to pay


And in your scenario the dude should go home and then try to sue them or contact the authorities? Is that correct ?

And if dude doesn’t ever get paid then no consequences, and the business got 30 minutes or free time from him, no jail time for the person who said they wouldn’t pay


And I’m to assume that if the employee took 30 min worth of time from the till that the employee would then be guilty of theft which could result in his death at most and will likely result in an arrest at minimum


Is anything I said wrong?


by Luciom P


To clarify my position better, if american democracy can't hold steady with trump elected (which I think it would, easily, you disagree with this assessment), it doesn't deserve to exist in the first place nor to lead the world.

So for me it's either a bad model undeserving of existing gets thrown out, or the actually strong and resilient American democracy keeps going (like during and after the first trump term).

Wow, this is quite... something.


by d2_e4 P

Wow, this is quite... something.

Think for the equilibrium over the next couple of centuries, like the founders did


by Luciom P

Think for the equilibrium over the next couple of centuries, like the founders did

I think it's fair to say that Rococo's characterisation of your attitude towards democracy was bang on the money.


by d2_e4 P

I think it's fair to say that Rococo's characterisation of your attitude towards democracy was bang on the money.

I am Churchillian in my take on democracy.


Anyway this is a good time to remind people that the USA survived having actual Nazis in the country, and they didn't even need to arrest all of them not even most of them and that was during a war against the actual Nazis, which the USA won very easily (the war with Japan required more efforts).

The USA not only survived but reached the pinnacle of world power while allowing something like a million citizens being part of pseudo Nazi groups and parties, while being a democracy, without suspending fundamental rights (they did overstep brutally against the Japanese, going mad with Japanese American internment camps, but that got fixed later).

That's how strong American democracy is.

Why is it that Americans constantly need foreigners to remind them of their greatness?


by Luciom P

I am Churchillian in my take on democracy.

If you believe it's the best system we have, one would have thought you'd be a little more protective of it.


by d2_e4 P

Wow, this is quite... something.

Democracy must change by a cataclysmic event for it to have any value...


On the pardon front .
About the difference of “integrity”.
Do Maga really believe trump wouldn’t have pardon already any of his children if they were in hunter place ?
Trump already pardon all his “friends”….


by StoppedRainingMen P

I certainly don’t think he was trying to say that, which is what makes it hilarious, but if he’s equating himself to Nalvany there’s no other interpretation other than Putin killed Nalvany and that’s what Biden’s doing to him

But he loves Putin, surely he isn't saying Putin did something bad.

Seriously, does anyone have any idea what Trump's point was in that post?


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