Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Here is what the preliminary take on the Ukraine thread disappearing is:

The site was hit with a massive spam attack where hundreds of spam threads were created. In the case where, for example, I see a single spam thread and delete it, that is called a soft delete, and mods can still see them but forum members cannot. Those deletion can be undone.

When a massive attack hits with hundreds of threads, an admin uses a different procedure where the hundreds of spam threads are merged and then hard deleted, where the threads are gone, and no note is left behind. As I have mentioned with my own experience of just soft deleting a large number of posts, sometimes a post or thread gets checked or merged accidentally and is deleted by mistake. Dealing with hundreds of spam threads takes a sledgehammer, not a scalpel.

It appears that our Ukraine thread may have gotten caught up in that recent net of spam threads. If so, it is likely gone for good. I cant say this for sure, and am awaiting comments from admins on this issue. Yes, this sucks. And hopefully there was some other software glitch that caused the disappearance, and we may recover it in the future.

But in the meantime, I have created this new Ukraine-Russia War thread to enable the conversation to continue. Obviously continuity with earlier discussions will be lost. There is no way around that. So as best as possible, let's pick up the conversation with recent events and go from there.

If you have any questions about this, please post them in the mod thread, not here. Let's keep this thread going with posts about the war, not the disappearance of the old thread.

Thanks.

08 February 2024 at 05:19 PM
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Read better. (Or just read all of the post, it is two sentences long and I explained why it is clear you are bsing in the second sentence.) That was a nice way of saying to bring it up in the appropriate thread.

Given you are using Russian propaganda memes to make fun of dead Ukrainians when you first brought it up, its pretty clear you brought it up here because you are upset that Russia won't be able to continue Ukrainians as much.


I didnt bring it up. and I didnt make fun of anyone. again, read better.


Liars lie. Your brought up the Israel bill in this thread. Read better

Read better. You did use a Russian propaganda meme used to make fun of dead Ukrainian. Liars lie.


This gues lies uncontrollably. He can't even remember what he wrote the previous post.


you think 57 is my alt?


or corpus?



hey bootlicker, link to the post where I "brought it up". you cant. so kindly slink off and find more reasons Israel murdering children is ok.


As your first image shows: 60bln UKRAINE AID.

to which you reply with a Russian propaganda meme making fun of dead Ukrainians.

You then CHANGE THE SUBJECT TO THE ISRAEL AND GAZA AID BILL, WHICH IS NOT THE 60BLN UKRAINE AID BILL. This means YOU brought up Israel. Granted you did this because you are so poorly informed on this situation that you seem to believe the 60bln UKRAINE AID also includes the 26 billion for Gaza and Israel, but it does not.

Ukraine aid.


Ffs your reading comprehension is abysmal.


by Victor P

The bill that he mentioned would anger me gave a bunch of money to Israel so they can continue to murder babies.

But I do realize in your mind they are probably not real human babies. That's probably where your confusion comes from.

Link to first mention of Israel since the UKRAINE AID BILL was mentioned, or in other words, your bringing up the Israel and Gaza bill and aid going to them.


I thought it was the same bill.

doesnt matter. corpus loves genocide and so do you.


also, even from a Ukrainian perspective, it does piss me off that a bunch more Ukrainians are gonna die for no reason. you, on the other hand, as a typical liberal, seem quite happy.

whats the saying? no the other one. liberals hate all war except the current one.


You are way too deep into the propaganda, this will result in less Ukrainian deaths.

Seriously, take a break, go touch grass. Delete Twitter.


if anyone needs to get off twitter it is yourself if you are linking to clowns like that Snyder guy

but anyway, war is peace. libs ghana lib.


In a video with MTG and the leading Ukrainian historian, you are calling the leading Ukrainian historian the clown....

Think about that.

It makes sense since your views on Ukraine line up with hers and a lot of your posts could be confused for her tweets. But to a reasonable person this would be cause for alarm. Tankies gonna tankie.


I dont agree with MTG lol. as usual, read better.


These could easily be mistaken as your posts:


Your views on Ukraine line up with hers, largely due to the fact that you both parrot Russian propaganda sources.


I would not call her a peacemonger nor a communist but ok. I dont make my decisions based on MTG (or AOC) or Joe Biden or Ryan Mcbeth for that matter. I am sorry that she wants peace like me. doesnt change my mind.


She doesn't want peace, she uses the word as a euphemism for genocide and murder just like you do since you both take your cues from the Kremlin.

Putin has made it incredibly obvious that the options are not war or peace. It is war where the defenders can defend themselves or war where the defenders can't defend themselves. Most people have a moral compass and vote for the former.

This framing of capitulation being "pro peace" is probably Putin's most dangerous narrative, and you've fallen for it, putting you in line with the likes of MTG. The only people here who are not in favor of a peaceful settlement are Putin bootlickers, for example the one you said was "spitting facts" after he called for the genocide of Ukraine and said Putin's biggest mistake was not invading Ukraine earlier.


by Victor P

I thought it was the same bill.

doesnt matter. corpus loves genocide and so do you.

It was months ago then they split the bill up for the opposite reason than you think, ie there were like 50-60 republicans who wanted to vote for Israel aid but not for Ukraine aid so they had a chance to do so.

Ukraine aid passed with 311 votes, Israel with 365 iirc


by Victor P

also, even from a Ukrainian perspective, it does piss me off that a bunch more Ukrainians are gonna die for no reason. you, on the other hand, as a typical liberal, seem quite happy.

whats the saying? no the other one. liberals hate all war except the current one.

They are going to die to try to get the Donbass back and try to stop losing more land to the invader.

Otoh Russian soldiers are going to die as well and that's a positive right? Fascist violent invaders dying is a good thing right?

"No reason"


by Victor P

I would not call her a peacemonger nor a communist but ok. I dont make my decisions based on MTG (or AOC) or Joe Biden or Ryan Mcbeth for that matter. I am sorry that she wants peace like me. doesnt change my mind.

You end up agreeing with MTG and her lot on everything in foreign policy though.

Using the same memes, same language, same fake narratives, both for the Ukraine situation and the Israel situation


by Luciom P

You end up agreeing with MTG and her lot on everything in foreign policy though.

Using the same memes, same language, same fake narratives, both for the Ukraine situation and the Israel situation

I get a kick out of anyone that opposes more aid for Ukraine is pro Putin and look out if we do not back Ukraine Putin will take over Europe.

The reality this will just stall the war longer and in 6 months Biden will want another 60 billion for Ukraine

Ukraine is running out of soldiers and can not produce the ammo required quick enough

I am not sure how all this got passed but nothing for the US border?


by lozen P

I get a kick out of anyone that opposes more aid for Ukraine is pro Putin and look out if we do not back Ukraine Putin will take over Europe.

The reality this will just stall the war longer and in 6 months Biden will want another 60 billion for Ukraine

Ukraine is running out of soldiers and can not produce the ammo required quick enough

I am not sure how all this got passed but nothing for the US border?

The right rejected funding for the border proposed by biden


by Doctor Zeus P

The right rejected funding for the border proposed by biden

Now that's probably a lie.


by Doctor Zeus P

The right rejected funding for the border proposed by biden

The right rejected some specific proposals because they considered it not enough (and it was linked to other stuff they didn't like, not a standalone bill)


by lozen P

I get a kick out of anyone that opposes more aid for Ukraine is pro Putin and look out if we do not back Ukraine Putin will take over Europe.

The reality this will just stall the war longer and in 6 months Biden will want another 60 billion for Ukraine

Ukraine is running out of soldiers and can not produce the ammo required quick enough

I am not sure how all this got passed but nothing for the US border?

Well the idea is they spend that money on USA made ammos (among other thing).

So it's more like 60 billions to american defense companies than to Ukraine.

American profits and american jobs, not welfare on Ukrainians for the most part.

And yes they will need more in some time if the war doesn't end.

You keep your defense companies at max production level while weakening your enemy (any young Russian solder who dies means a weaker Russia) , with no American blood loss, sounds like a win.

I agree the scare about Putin taking over NATO countries is overblown, but the need to keep Putin bogged down in the war is very real.


by Luciom P

Well the idea is they spend that money on USA made ammos (among other thing).

So it's more like 60 billions to american defense companies than to Ukraine.

American profits and american jobs, not welfare on Ukrainians for the most part.

And yes they will need more in some time if the war doesn't end.

You keep your defense companies at max production level while weakening your enemy (any young Russian solder who dies means a weaker Russia) , with

No it’s only about 20 billion for the defense industry. It’s amazing where some of that cash goes and no oversight


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