Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.


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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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The things I posted were inappropriate. No need to make fun of it


I also didn’t say dirty racist

I just said racist.


by PointlessWords P

Ok good point I’m sorry about that.

My main point is that racism should be allowed here and just let us argue over it.

If you say no racism, well, you’re gonna have a hard time.

Or maybe posters just don't post ethnic slurs. I personally wouldn't have a hard time with that.


by PointlessWords P

The things I posted were inappropriate. No need to make fun of it


I also didn’t say dirty racist

I just said racist.

Would...unhygienic racist be more acceptable to you?


by corpus vile P

Or maybe posters just don't post ethnic slurs. I personally wouldn't have a hard time with that.

You don’t realize that most people being called terrorists are victims of an ethnic slur do you


rafki def posted some misinformation

https://archive.ph/eOSOc

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...




once again, I refer you guys to the Sartre quote. sorry xn, I think that jalfrezi described exactly his intention.


by PointlessWords P

You are actually not telling the truth. My bet has always been we get pictures of 500 Israeli citizens and 500 Palestinian citizens and that I will be able to distinguish which are which within a reasonable degree of certainty

Because of wealth culture and income you will.

Living decent civilized lives leaves marks on your body you know?

Would you take that bet with 1 day old babies?


by PointlessWords P

You don’t realize that most people being called terrorists are victims of an ethnic slur do you

No, I don't...because they aren't.


by PointlessWords P

Ok good point I’m sorry about that.

My main point is that racism should be allowed here and just let us argue over it.

If you say no racism, well, you’re gonna have a hard time.

Calling Palestinians terrorists would be bad and probably racist
Calling Hamas terrorists is not


We do it all the time in western societies. White guy shoots up a school, he has mental issues or was being teased

Brown person does it and they are terrorists.


by metsandfinsfan P

Calling Palestinians terrorists would be bad and probably racist
Calling Hamas terrorists is not

How about calling IDF terrorists


by washoe P

there are numerous articles about this.
here you go.



The incubator videos and pics were all fake or from years ago

https://fullfact.org/online/gaza-prematu...

Israel did not try to kill any babies. They didn't allowv fuel in at that point but there was plenty of fuel and hamas didn't give it to the hospital

To be fair at least 6 babies did die

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact...

But the depiction that Israel killed them is still 100% false


by PointlessWords P

How about calling IDF terrorists

When they shot those 4 aid trucks after telling them to go there, it could be understandable but i still wouldn't

But in general, no i would say in general it is not okay. But not because of race. Because it isn't true


Clearly it’s true by any metric. By international standards. By international opinion. By legal definition. By Webster definition.

And by general usage


by PointlessWords P

Clearly it’s true by any metric. By international standards. By international opinion. By legal definition. By Webster definition.

And by general usage

It is not. They are not classified as a terrorist organization by any legitimate body


by metsandfinsfan P

It is not. They are not classified as a terrorist organization by any legitimate body

Legit according to who?

The Us said they were doing war crimes. You know who does war crimes? Terrorists


by Victor P

looks like Biden is about to sacrifice 20 US doctors at the altar of Zionism

vote blue no matter who

Hamas is still holding American civilianshostage but you think there should be a cease-fire so now you are worried about American doctors?


by PointlessWords P

Legit according to who?

The Us said they were doing war crimes. You know who does war crimes? Terrorists

Whom

And no, the US concluded what they did does NOT constitute war crimes


by metsandfinsfan P

Hamas is still holding American civilianshostage but you think there should be a cease-fire so now you are worried about American doctors?

a ceasefire brings the "hostages" home. so yes, ofc I want a ceasefire, always have.

you know what doesnt bring them home? dropping bombs on them.


just a reminder that Israel knows where everyone lives and has all of their cell phone data and is able to track all of them.

but ya, the deaf teacher was def Hamas.


Sorry I misspoke.

“The report said it was “reasonable to assess” that U.S. defense articles “have been used by Israeli security forces since October 7 in instances inconsistent” with its international humanitarian law obligations “or with established best practices,” according to an executive summary of the report.
The current hostilities trace to that date in the fall, when Hamas militants led a cross-border attack into Israel that killed 1,200. The Palestinian death toll is nearing 35,000, according to local health authorities, who do not distinguish between combatants and civilians but note that most of the dead are women and children.“


also Israel is once again firing on UN workers

its ok bc the UN is antisemitic or something


by washoe P

the idf removed power from every hospital in gaza, effectively killing every baby in an incubator. and any other patients.

Sorry I totally missed this story when it happened. Can you link me to where every baby in an incubator there died?

Truly I missed that one then


by PointlessWords P

Sorry I misspoke.

“The report said it was “reasonable to assess” that U.S. defense articles “have been used by Israeli security forces since October 7 in instances inconsistent” with its international humanitarian law obligations “or with established best practices,” according to an executive summary of the report.
The current hostilities trace to that date in the fall, when Hamas militants led a cross-border attack into Israel that killed 1


The U.S. government did not find any violations of Section 620I of the Foreign Assistance Act, which bars military aid to any government that “prohibits or otherwise restricts, directly or indirectly, the transport or delivery of United States humanitarian assistance.” However, the United States “will continue to monitor and respond.”

The report also says Israel could do better but did not violate law and the US will continue to send supplies


by rafiki P

Sorry I totally missed this story when it happened. Can you link me to where every baby in an incubator there died?

Truly I missed that one then

It's been debunked over and over

Israel brought in incubators and helped get babies who needed incubators out of gaza and into working hospitals


by Victor P

just a reminder that Israel knows where everyone lives and has all of their cell phone data and is able to track all of them.

but ya, the deaf teacher was def Hamas.

The dude is pretty fat. Since the civilians are starving, he had to be Hamas.


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