2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by Trolly McTrollson P

What is it you think China is going to do with everyone's TikTok dance videos?

Dance videos are probably 1% of the content that gets released on TikTok

The blunt answer is propaganda. They use the profiles to determine how best to manipulate people. Its part of what has made Russia so successful in their misinformation campaigns.


Curious what people think about the dems putting hakeem jeffries as the nominee?


by coordi P

I dunno why Democrats are concerned with China having detailed social profiles on American children. Seems like harmless fun to me!

It’s very bipartisan. And it’s not really much different from the EU making a bunch of extra regulations on Facebook.


by chillrob P

Or possibly because it's based in China and allows the Chinese government to have access to everything posted there, along with possibly gaining access to other information on the phones of 170m American users.

It's also quite a stretch to call a platform which hosts minute long videos, mostly of very young people posting silly selfies, "the press".

no, they literally dont want you to have access to information. the same thing that biggerboat was lamenting if Trump came to power.

and Biden gave up the game when he agreed with Romney that one of the main reasons is that tiktok was making USA look bad in foreign countries (with truth).

https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-ci...

and remember axios is a pro-Zionist source.


by Victor P

no, they literally dont want you to have access to information. the same thing that biggerboat was lamenting if Trump came to power.

and Biden gave up the game when he agreed with Romney that one of the main reasons is that tiktok was making USA look bad in foreign countries (with truth).

https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-ci...

and remember axios is a pro-Zionis

Sure, another legitimate reason is to prevent enemies of the US to spread propaganda among young Americans, as mentioned earlier.

It has nothing to do with wanting me not to have access to information; that would be a ridiculous place to go for political info (or any info really).


ya its better to only view approved party propaganda. that was my whole point. and biggerboat's although I dont think he realized it.


You can think whatever you want about some of the motives, but I think it's fine to not want an app based on China on the phones of millions of Americans.

Also, they were given the option of selling the platform to a company based in the US. I suppose you could say that in that way they could prohibit the things supporting Palestine, but I have seen at least hundreds (possibly thousands) of those on Facebook and Instagram since last October, so if the Biden administration is trying to prevent that kind of thing from being on social media, they're certainly doing a very poor job of it.


by Victor P

ya its better to only view approved party propaganda. that was my whole point. and biggerboat's although I dont think he realized it.

You are a victim of the sound bite.

Pretty ironic considering the topic but yeah, maybe don't explicitly trust an out of context one sentence summary of a conversation that is over an hour long.


so its ok to shut down media if its from China? any other countries on that list? can we shut down American media too?

you are shifting the goalposts. biggerboat expressed fear that Trump would "shut down the press". I aptly pointed out that the Dems are quite happy to shut down press too. the point is that only approved press and media is allowed anyway and you can find any number of reasons to justify it.

personally, I would be happy if the NYT was shut down bc its a genocidal rag that has promoted every war since its inception and cheered on the murder of millions. but that is precisely the press that biggerboat is worried about shutting down. weird.


by coordi P

You are a victim of the sound bite.

Pretty ironic considering the topic but yeah, maybe don't explicitly trust an out of context one sentence summary of a conversation that is over an hour long.

no I just understand the inherent bullshit of fearmongering around the whole Trump is fascist thing. the fact is that he is no different than the Dems who have already proven they are more than willing to go straight to genocide and fascism and censorship.

and thats not even getting into the utterly racist tropes exemplified by the whole Chinese and Russian propaganda fears.


by Victor P

no I just understand the inherent bullshit of fearmongering around the whole Trump is fascist thing. the fact is that he is no different than the Dems who have already proven they are more than willing to go straight to genocide and fascism and censorship.

and thats not even getting into the utterly racist tropes exemplified by the whole Chinese and Russian propaganda fears.

The fact that our political enemies are employing social campaigns against our population is racist?


The undiscerning rabble would have gone full blown messiah mode if they had milked Trump's appearance until late, Willis Reed like. There is a lust in a certain mindset to be misled, to be tricked, to be protected from reality, to subvert one's consciousness to a autocrat, whether that autocrat be a god, a cult leader, a politician. Same thing.


by coordi P

The fact that our political enemies are employing social campaigns against our population is racist?

the fact that you think by virtue of company being Chinese means they are doing something nefarious is racist.

regardless, I cant be arsed to care about a Chinese company tracking my data. already the American companies will bust down your door if you post the wrong thing on social media. and American companies will sell your data to foreign countries doing genocide (Israel and Myanmar confirmed but surely others).

and why is China so bad compared to an apartheid South African slave mining oligarch?

I just dont like the hypocrisy from the Dems and their supporters. they have no problem with Chinese companies except that the content makes Joe Biden look bad.


by coordi P

The blunt answer is propaganda. They use the profiles to determine how best to manipulate people. Its part of what has made Russia so successful in their misinformation campaigns.

Yeah no, no one seriously thinks China is putting the whammy on Gen-Z kids. If there was a real security concern they'd be shutting down TikTok or nationalizing it instead of forcing China to sell it to the US. This was a pretty obvious bit of crony capitalism.


Haley blowing trump is the most surreal shameless **** I have ever seen


by Victor P

the fact that you think by virtue of company being Chinese means they are doing something nefarious is racist.

regardless, I cant be arsed to care about a Chinese company tracking my data. already the American companies will bust down your door if you post the wrong thing on social media. and American companies will sell your data to foreign countries doing genocide (Israel and Myanmar confirmed but surely others).

and why is China so bad c

They don’t have to be doing anything nefarious. The Chinese government can do anything it wants. Unalive every last person in the company to steal the data? Check. Or they can just force them to send all their data through an api pipeline straight into a database.

But yeah, musk requiring KYC through an Israeli intelligence firm is pretty lol. The fact anyone still uses that site is a joke. And evil supervillain Elon musk going full trump acolyte should tell everyone what they need to know about the republican candidate.

You’re close to getting it but also a world away because of your bias


by StoppedRainingMen P

Haley blowing trump is the most surreal shameless **** I have ever seen

I'm sure Melania is cool with it


by Trolly McTrollson P

Yeah no, no one seriously thinks China is putting the whammy on Gen-Z kids. If there was a real security concern they'd be shutting down TikTok or nationalizing it instead of forcing China to sell it to the US. This was a pretty obvious bit of crony capitalism.

The recent anti-Israel movement originated on TikTok and was a foreign disinformation campaign to drive a political wedge during a critical election cycle.

It’s not just boomers getting the whammy.

Ironically Russian and Chinese citizens are insulted from such attacks because they only consume state provided propaganda


Fentanyl Barbie can enjoy hell

The literal audacity of seeking celebrity by getting dolled up to parade your child’s death


by StoppedRainingMen P

Fentanyl Barbie can enjoy hell

The literal audacity of seeking celebrity by getting dolled up to parade your child’s death

Who's that?


…..biden didn’t appoint Alvin Bragg

Wtf is this


by Victor P

they have no problem with Chinese companies except that the content makes Joe Biden look bad.

Their problem with the chinese conpanies is that it saturates the market which reduces US content which lowers revenue and less tax revenue.

It has nothing to do with Biden. The job of the media companies is to not go out of business, which is why news stations were willing to throw biden under the bus after his debate speech or bring trumps rhetoric to the forefront all day long. They show what keeps people watching.

China and Russia has certainly done a good job of seperating american citizens towards either "lefties or maga reps" who will only trust crazy ass conspiracies in order to bring down the country from the inside. But the greed alone is already doing that in the US. They just dont want other countries doing the damage without the profits.


by coordi P

The recent anti-Israel movement originated on TikTok and was a foreign disinformation campaign to drive a political wedge during a critical election cycle.

It’s not just boomers getting the whammy.

Ironically Russian and Chinese citizens are insulted from such attacks because they only consume state provided propaganda

no I def get it. tiktok made Israel and by extension the Biden admin look bad by showing the truth. that was the primary impetus but ultimately its about controlling info so even if there wasnt a Biden sponsored plausible genocide, they would have still gotten rid of it.

its funny you call it disinformation. Im pretty sure its real. they def killed all those people! over 200k now!


Carson: (the left) tried to kill him!
RNC: it’s time for unity


Wild to see a brain surgeon talk while lobotomized


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