2024 ELECTION THREAD

2024 ELECTION THREAD

The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?


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14 July 2022 at 02:28 PM
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by bundy5 P

Yes - he isn't about to endorse a nominee that can win. All up to the delegates to make the right call - open convention and let all candidates put up their hand. Harris has the slight edge with Biden's backing but it should be made an open race.

Agreed. I want to see some kind of openness. The DNC unfairly elevated Hillary over Bernie. They need to make this more fair. I think Bernie would have beat Trump in 2016.


The narrative now being from the republicans being that they disenfranchised millions of Dems is hiiiiiiiilarious. **** off and die

Anyway, Harris being the nominee is far from a done deal. I imagine DNC prefers this just for a straightforward linear path but my money is still on Newsom


by Tuma P

Whitmer brought Michigan online poker and legal weed, almost instantly. She's also quite likable.

Yes if you are going a woman my pick is Whitmer too - totally fresh and unburdens the dems from this mess that Biden has created by not stepping down earlier.


by natediggity P

Agreed. I want to see some kind of openness. The DNC unfairly elevated Hillary over Bernie. They need to make this more fair. I think Bernie would have beat Trump in 2016.


Oh word?


by StoppedRainingMen P

The narrative now being from the republicans being that they disenfranchised millions of Dems is hiiiiiiiilarious. **** off and die

Anyway, Harris being the nominee is far from a done deal. I imagine DNC prefers this just for a straightforward linear path but my money is still on Newsom

I haven't seen the letter but I think Biden needs to be honest about the reason he is stepping aside and if it is based on (new) medical evidence that he would not be fit enough to serve out a 4 year term - the republicans will now argue that the 25th amendment should be invoked and this will become Biden's new challenge to ward that off - I would not have him do anymore campaigning. Let him just focus on Republican threats to dethrone him from president which he will have to put his total energy towards because he, Harris and the dems know that I think this is only step 1 for possibly a completely new ticket to come from the convention.


by StoppedRainingMen P

Oh word?


Yes, word. It's an old story.

"The most recent court hearing on the case was held on April 25, during which the DNC reportedly argued that the organization's neutrality among Democratic campaigns during the primaries was merely a "political promise," and therefore it had no legal obligations to remain impartial throughout the process."

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-...

"Court Concedes DNC Had the Right to Rig Primaries Against Sanders"

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admit...


So hillary won the popular vote by 12% but it was rigged against bernie cuz something something superduperdelegates?


by briangriffingster P

Is it that controversial when something like 70% of democrats think he’s unfit to run for office…and election is in 100 days or so?

/edit I get you guys think people are saying he’s unfit from Jan 1st 2025 until Jan 1st 2029.

He’s a young healthy able minded individual today on July 22 2024.


Why is this such a weird binary for you ("unfit" or "young healthy able minded individual")? Are you actually thinking that's how it works, or is this just some feeble attempt at a "gotcha"?


by StoppedRainingMen P

So hillary won the popular vote by 12% but it was rigged against bernie cuz something something superduperdelegates?

i mean, this isn't new news. agree to disagree i guess.


by Bobo Fett P

Why is this such a weird binary for you ("unfit" or "young healthy able minded individual")? Are you actually thinking that's how it works, or is this just some feeble attempt at a "gotcha"?


Yes, the world has grey nuances. Biden not actually unfit now, but extrapolated he will probably be. Just trying to predict the coming as well as possible, we do it all the time in our lives.


Why do Rs even care whether Ds are being “Disenfranchised”?


by natediggity P

i mean, this isn't new news. agree to disagree i guess.

I’m not a fan of the dnc delegate process by any means (Obama ****ed Hillary out of the nomination in 2008 via them) but I shed no tears for the process as it relates to Bernie and just find it weird when people keep bringing him up as if there was an actual mandate for him


a bit more on how awful the JD Vance pick was

Vance is young (39) and untested

he ran 10 points behind the other big 2022 Ohio election R victor. that's hard to do folks. why did this happen? partially bc you're an unlikable guy w little curb appeal

2022 OH gubernatorial

Mike DeWine (62.4%)
Nan Whaley (37.4%)

2022 OH U.S. Senate

JD Vance (53%)
Tim Ryan (46.9%)

one of his pet peeves is making fun of and talking down to single ppl. U.S. marriage rates are at an all-time low

the primary news independents saw after the announcement was Vance calling Trump a modern day Hitler, Vance referring to Trump as cultural heroin (which is a huge putdown when you think of the opioid crisis which runs through his book Hillbilly Elegy), and numerous other unflattering documented comments he made about Trump. independents hear this and then see him carrying Trump's water and paint him as the spineless sap that he is

tldr; Trump did Dems a huge favor by picking Vance as his VP


by GTO2.0 P

Why do Rs even care whether Ds are being “Disenfranchised”?

Dems have a better chance today than they did 24 hours ago and R seeking to make people mad about the inferior candidate getting jobbed

Same gameplan they ran in 2020 appealing to Bernie supporters who they claim we’re screwed by biden


by plaaynde P

Yes, the world has grey nuances. Biden not actually unfit now, but extrapolated he will probably be. Just trying to predict the coming as well as possible, we do it all the time in our lives.


Biden is unfit now. You did see the debate right? And it wasn't just "a bad night." But even if he's unfit I don't see the harm in him finishing his term. He's been a puppet for a while now and a couple more months won't hurt.

And before I get a whatabot.....orange man is also unfit.


Didn't I read somewhere that Tim Ryan was a good opponent?


by bundy5 P

Didn't I read somewhere that Tim Ryan was a good opponent?

def a good opponent

10 pts is still 10 pts

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Vance is also a DEI candidate, which MAGA rails against

Rs are hypocrites, same as it ever was

paywalled NYT link

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opini...


What are Kamala's odds right now? Id proly put a hefty bet on her.


Kamala is a moron. Vote for Trump, dems are pathetic.


by Victor P

What are Kamala's odds right now? Id proly put a hefty bet on her.

81% nominee
28% prez


by nohands P

Kamala is a moron. Vote for Trump, dems are pathetic.

i'm not voting for the oldest person to ever be president.. also he's the dumbest person to ever be president.. also he's a rapist.



I have no idea who the **** this guy is. Why did I put him on ignore?

*view post*

by nohands P

Kamala is a moron. Vote for Trump, dems are pathetic.

Oh

First instinct always the right one


lol, wp srm


by StoppedRainingMen P

I’m not a fan of the dnc delegate process by any means (Obama ****ed Hillary out of the nomination in 2008 via them) but I shed no tears for the process as it relates to Bernie and just find it weird when people keep bringing him up as if there was an actual mandate for him


Obama left the dems in debt. H Dawg rescued them by putting them on an allowance. The trade off was H Dawg got to control the party's $$$$, strategy, $$$$, communications director, $$$$$, and make all final staff decisions. And $$$$$$. The DNC had to consult with H Dawg about everything that mattered.

I'm not a Bernie fan but that's ridiculous.

Side note: Hillary is also the person that blamed women for not supporting her. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.


this is going to be all the better in november to watch the MAGAT heads assplode.

i despise harris and would still vote for her over your orange god. you have gained ZERO votes and nobody is sitting out to let that ****er win.


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