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nate bronze spouting off about the bad political instincts of others ...... thats bait
iirc the progressives have been saying for 2 years that Biden shouldnt run
Nutty Yahoo will not rest until he he starts a war with iran and Lebanon and drags america into it
So that’s cool
also extremely kool that usa#1's position seems to be yeah, sure, go for it, we dont care. what could go wrong? etc
Nutty Yahoo will not rest until he he starts a war with iran and Lebanon and drags america into it
So that’s cool
I mean, last time Israel got uppity and killed a bunch of Republican Guard dudes, Iran launched 300 drones with rockets in their mouths so when they fly they fire rockets at you or whatever...and all but like 2 got shot down.
Iran has it's own internal problems to worry about, just rattle the sabre a bit an go on with your lives. No need to launch your one nuke over a guy you barely liked anyway.
And America doesn't fight wars anymore anyway, we write checks and have other countries fight for us.
I mean, last time Israel got uppity and killed a bunch of Republican Guard dudes, Iran launched 300 drones with rockets in their mouths so when they fly they fire rockets at you or whatever...and all but like 2 got shot down.
Iran has it's own internal problems to worry about, just rattle the sabre a bit an go on with your lives. No need to launch your one nuke over a guy you barely liked anyway.
And America doesn't fight wars anymore anyway,
Ignoring the stances people have on Israel/Gaza here are the facts as I see it:
1. Bibi is a far-right, deeply unpopular, would-be authoritarian trying to decimate the Israeli Supreme Court and remake it in orthodox image to consolidate his power. The only thing keeping him from dying in prison is his current office. This entire hellscape in the Middle East is a product of his creation to allow for him to stay in rule
2. America is bound to support him because of their blood pact with Israel and he knows this and is testing the limits of what he can get away with
3. Literally the only reason the Middle East isn’t engaging in full scale war with Israel is because America by itself has the strength and will to bomb them into oblivion and china and Russia won’t support them and start WW3 so they’re putting up with this **** and making token gestures to no end or purpose but morale in their homeland
4. If there were an ounce of Justice in this world Netanyahu faces his own death as the cost for all he’s done. But since no American running for public office will stand for that lest they be trounced in their elections here we are
I'm lost on the Israel strike on that Hamas dude in Iran.
Did a F-35 really carry out the airstrike on that Hamas leader in Iran?
A F35 can just fly over Iran and they can't do **** about it?
No idea, but if the world is giving 20 year old F-16s to Ukraine with the expectation they'll be enough to gain air superiority over the Russian Armed Forces, it's not a reach to assume Iran doesn't have the stuff needed to harm one, much newer stealth plane.
I'm lost on the Israel strike on that Hamas dude in Iran.
Did a F-35 really carry out the airstrike on that Hamas leader in Iran?
A F35 can just fly over Iran and they can't do **** about it?
Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh was killed Wednesday by an explosive device planted in a Tehran guest house two months before the explosion, a source tells CNN.
Why use an F-35 when Mossad is apparently hiding bombs under every other guest bed
I don't recall him saying that, but maybe. They were talking about the "black unemployment rate" and Trump said something about "Illegals stealing black jobs". It was one of the bigger, non-Joever moments from the debate.
ya I see Trump said it and then Biden repeated it and then there was this
Yeah, that brief moment of lucidity got a good pop
By the way, she’s not only a great vice-president. She can be president of the United States.”
Prescient
israel going down, hard
if kamala is smart (she probably isn't, or brave) she'd hand this toxic football off to the republicans, especially with how eager they are to take it. i don't even see how it costs them anything. all the insane zionist money and votes are already going gop, you aren't gaining anything by choosing to go down with this ship. step off
"The people with the worst political instincts in the world"
imagine appealing to the authority of dumbass zionist republican stephen miller looking ass nate bronze lmao, couldn't be me
no I dont personally care. but it had been obv for years that Biden had dementia or something akin and was going to get trounced.
maybe that was the plan all along from Clyburn. let him get embarrassed at the debate and then put in the next genocide pilot.
no I dont personally care. but it had been obv for years that Biden had dementia or something akin and was going to get trounced.
maybe that was the plan all along from Clyburn. let him get embarrassed at the debate and then put in the next genocide pilot.
USA has a long consistent history of genocidal presidents
no I dont personally care. but it had been obv for years that Biden had dementia or something akin and was going to get trounced.
maybe that was the plan all along from Clyburn. let him get embarrassed at the debate and then put in the next genocide pilot.
shitlibs aren't in a cult and therefore their decision making processes are often nuanced and subject to different variables in a highly fluid situation
Vance might get replaced at this point.
Dude is a negative.
