The costs of trans visibility
Yesterday, Dylan Mulvaney broke her silence: https://www.tiktok.com/@dylanmulvaney/vi....
For context, this is a trans influencer who built a 10 million strong following on TikTok. She took a brand deal with budweiser to post an ad on an instagram, and the anti-trans right went absolutely ballistic, calling for a boycott, condemning the company, and to some perhaps unknowable degree it influenced that Budweiser sales dropped by a 1/4 and
. Dylan speaks more personally about the effect of the hatred on her.
What strikes me about this story is that it is just about visibility. This isn't inclusion in sports or gender-affirming care for minors, it was just that a trans person was visible. This wasn't even visibility in a TV commerical that a poor right-winger is forced to see, it was an ad on her own instagram page. We're all in our own social media algorithm influenced bubbles, but from my vantage point it really has seemed that in the last year or so things have just gotten worse for trans people and the backlash to even minor visibility is growing.
We need to do better.
This is not how to respond to a small infraction and deleted post. Phresh is on a one-day ban to cool off. I'll leave these posts up to explain to others.
what's more unbelievable is this is probably the dozenth time something like this has happened and yet you always appear surprised or confused by it
i can't think of a single thread on this site that has specific "this is the correct subjective viewpoint and all others will be banned"
can you imagine if the israel/palestine thread had victor setting the rules for what one could or couldn't say?
it's absolutely absurd
you should recuse yourself and not be moderating this thread
yes that describes a lot of radical leftists (notoriously people who self identify as very liberal are far more often mentally ill than people who self identify as very conservative)
Mental illness is much higher in radical leftists than nay other political group - from left wing to far right. This relationship holds even when controlling for age/sex (young women are far more likely to be mentally ill and far-left).
Some are, some are not. This is a decent snapshot of the data.
Carry on 😀
So we ride the merry go round where I supply studies and statistics, you guys reject studies and statistics, then spew a bunch of opinions and jerk each other off for those opinions giving a nice confirmation bias dopamine hit and that’s all that gets internalized.
You're literally describing your own behaviour here. Look at this recent exchange about ROGD. Rather than debate the issue, you dismiss the study, insult me personally and you and uke wank each other off while flinging more insults.
You really posted a study that polled parents in an on-line forum about their kids rapid onset?
The first study is at least not blatantly egregious but its pretty serendipitous that you posted a Littman study since shes widely considered a quack whos debunked studies have been used to drive anti-trans policy (ie: a plant).
The first study isn't even a study, its a littman letter to the editor. As for the second, well just read the utterly embarrassing and massive correction when you expand at the top.
Elrazor has long outed himself as a littman fanboy, but don't take it too seriously, he doesn't actually read the things he posts.
Yeah, sorry you got tee'd up like a 5 year old to post the literal clown shoes study that has been thoroughly lambasted and debunked.
Lmao Elrazor just linked A THIRD littman paper. See, I told you he doesn’t read his links.
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Posters will note my coup de grâce that went unanswered:
Littman and colleagues also analysed the same 27k data sample (that was authored by prominent transactivists) and did find evidence for ROGD, so if sample size is your only issue then that addresses it.
it also demonstrates you can make data mean anything if you are determined to, which I'm sure is Littman's point.
This notwithstanding the fact that the data in that report was collected in 2015, so how could anyone possibly collect meaningf
Right wingers not seeking help doesn't make them healthier mentally.
So why do liberals not seek help either?
If only this were the case...
We'd have full healthcare coverage, education through at least 20 years old, and no aggressive military.
Yes Marxism is famously pacifist (????) and against blue collar jobs (?????), Marx wanted the proletariat to become intellectual masturbators doing made up useless jobs at desks (??????) after discussing the sex of angels in college for years.
Health coverage is full btw, in blue states not a single person who wants coverage is denied it. The few people who don't have it do so voluntarily, Medicaid expansion covers everyone who couldn't have afforded it previously.
That is, except illegals.
But anyway no I don't think centrist democrats are necessarily Marxists
what's more unbelievable is this is probably the dozenth time something like this has happened and yet you always appear surprised or confused by it
i can't think of a single thread on this site that has specific "this is the correct subjective viewpoint and all others will be banned"
can you imagine if the israel/palestine thread had victor setting the rules for what one could or couldn't say?
it's absolutely absurd
you should recuse yourself
why would you say something about me when you have no idea what you are talking about?
have you ever asked me what I would allow? have you ever read a post where I explain what I would allow? bc plenty such posts exist.
Pretty sure Viktor has a position on content censorship with is close to mine, perhaps even less censorious (I would remove content that is illegal in the jurisdiction the site legally is in, not sure if Viktor would)
Pretty sure islam (and Algerian morality laws more spefically) doesn't allow this in public if the person on the shoulders of the other is a woman which isn't a relative.
That unless we have photos of arab-majority countries winning medals in women sports, with men trainers/coaches doing the same with ANY woman medalist, then it's absolutely obvious the trainers/coaches of that individual, morally, pragamatically, don't consider that individual a woman, they treat that individual as they would treat a man.
What would the fact that people that work with that individual all year long, who care a lot (because of cultural reasons, and legal reasons in their home country) about what sex a person actually is when deciding how to interact with that person in public, tell me when they act exactly as they would with a man, and absolutely not how they would with a woman?
That they know he is biologically a man, for sure, and that the algerian government knows as well (those are government employees). Ie XY chromosomes.
They allow a biological man to be trans even if it's illegal (in algeria) because it wins them medals, and because they deny officially it ever was a man, even if they know it and behave in these cases, when emotions are strong, on their actual beliefs not on the charade they keep up to satisfy legal requirements for participation.
Fascists have such over-active imaginations. No wonder Hitler thought he could take over the world.
”they ARE non-binary”.
YouÂ’ve been told this repeatedly. Why are you still struggling with basic conjugations?
What exactly is non binary?
Is there a definition or is this another category with totally vague description?
Serious question
I see basic and obvious questions are being avoided by team gender ideology. Anyone? I guess language policing has captured your attention
Speaking of non binary. What is going on here?
Once again, we have people that subscribe to gender ideology and moderate the thread as if it's fact make it like pulling teeth to get a basic and obvious question answered. Step 2 will pretending like I didn't ask what a woman is over and over and over pointing out it was never answered before getting the lol "definition. yeah that make ME the one acting in "bad faith" etc and these antics are just your imagination
You have access to Google. Is there something you're confused about? If there's a point you'd like to make, you can make the point without playing games by first asking for definitions that are easy to look up.
Given your behaviour over the “what is a woman?” debacle where no matter what someone explained to you you would put your head in the sand and pretend not only that you didn’t understand it but also that they never told you, I don’t think people are going to be all that eager to explain the basic terms to you.
This is the first google result. Is this your definition of non binary?
https://www.minus18.org.au/articles/i-ju...
What does non-binary mean?
In really simple terms, a non-binary person is someone who does not identify as exclusively a man or a woman. Someone who is non-binary might feel like a mix of genders, or like they have no gender at all.
Personally, I identify outside of the gender binary entirely. I am not a boy or girl at all. Some other non-binary people might identify partially with one or more of the binary genders – for example, a gender-fluid person (someone whose gender changes over time) who identifies as a girl sometimes and genderless other times. There are so many different ways to be non-binary, and we're all still valid and real!
Not only have I repeated the point below a handful of times. I keep repeatedly pointing out that you are avoiding the question repeatedly. This seems even more difficult for you guys than "what is a woman" and what is " non binary". Why is it so difficult to extract an answer about the most basic questions of gender ideology and the terms you are using yourselves? also if you are going to moderate a thread as if this isn't incoherent made up nonsense, then answering the questions could kill two birds as they say
4. I've repeatedly asked for someone to explain what "gender" adds or changes from categories we already know and understand. We have sex, personality, and sexuality. If you can't or refuse to explain the difference combined with your definition (or lack of) of a woman, it's very premature to enforce gender ideology on everyone as the standard
Let me explain the situation to the clowns coming into an 8000 post thread demanding answers
You aren't unique or special
We are all exhausted from running around trying to appease people who ignore, deflect, and insult
Studies get posted, studies get ignored. Opinions get posted, opinions get internalized
Its just this repeated cycle where nothing gets accomplished
Maybe do some of your own work? Present something with substance and data back
You posted links to articles written by activists with pronouns in their bio citing the leadership of trans organizations deeply protective of their "gender affirming care" model which has almost zero obstacles in transitioning a minor without parental involvement.. What you posted amounts to those people poking holes at the credibility of studies presenting evidence of ROGD. As I said before, somewhere in your head you confused this with the fact your position wasn't based on any thorough research and pure ideology. So it's not like if they find a sample group has a bias that all of the sudden you can dismiss the study and go back to your well researched position rooted in science. You have come from a place of ideology and have posted articles dismissing some of the research opposing "gender affirming care" citing the trans activists openly stating they are deeply invested in protecting "gender affirming care"
The spin going on in your head is incredible
I think for bathrooms, locker rooms and prison a very simple "genitalia matter" rule would be good enough
Mental illness is much higher in radical leftists than nay other political group - from left wing to far right. This relationship holds even when controlling for age/sex (young women are far more likely to be mentally ill and far-left).
Some are, some are not. This is a decent snapshot of the data.
Carry on 😀
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https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/persona...
https://link.springer.com/article/10.100...
Development of Gender Non-Contentedness During Adolescence and Early Adulthood
Individuals with an increasing gender non-contentedness more often were female and both an increasing and decreasing trajectory were associated with a lower global self-worth, more behavioral and emotional problems, and a non-heterosexual sexual orientation. Gender non-contentedness, while being relatively common during early adolescence, in general decreases with age and appears to be associated with a poorer self-concept and mental health throughout development.
if you add "climate crisis paranoia" (the idea we will soon be extinct because of climate change) to wokism you get it better, the existential fear of life itself, and the hatred toward humanity existence, the sense of guilt at just being, is overwhelming among radical leftists. They hate human life and all the structures it comports.
It also explains why they typically hate whites (while mostly being whites themselves).
It's a millenarian suicide cult.
