2024 ELECTION THREAD
The next presidential race will be here soon! Please see current Bovada odds. Thoughts?
The sad part in all of this about the American people is we saw actually what was needed to be ready to put a woman at the helm of the country .
A sex offender and fraudster convict , age near 80 years old close to be senile with an insane fascism narrative while electing a judicial system that rip off woman to control their own body and yet , it’s still a close call ….
Jfc ….the amount of bs American are ready to eat is just amazing .
It shou
Do the American women who voted for this man, hate themselves?
Seem so , like a woman living in a domestic violence environment never pressing charge until she’s found dead ….
The Battered woman's syndrome.
Americans Talibans ftw
You know some gay men votes for the anti gay everything policies party called the republican party too right ?
I guess some individual just don’t care much about their own self , they just care more about tax cut and owning the libs shrug .
Which it’s fine if that makes them happy .
Happiness isn’t always brought by logic I suppose .
Seem so , like a woman living in a domestic violence environment never pressing charge until she’s found dead ….
The Battered woman's syndrome.
You know some gay men votes for the anti gay everything policies party called the republican party right ?
I guess some individual just don’t care much about their own self , they just care more about tax cut and owning the libs shrug .
That's the explanation. Millions of women have battered woman syndrome.
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For sure .
It’s like drug addiction, it’s bad but millions do it anyway.
You how many millions Americans are functional illiterate?
Around 20% of people is a lot of stupid people around voting against their own interest .
And I will let you deduct where the majority comes from and which side they vote .
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/202...
In short, yes. At least the majority of them. The amount of self loathing among that demographic must be off the charts, to be compelled to vote against their own self interests. That has always been the puzzling thing to me - irrespective of how much you lack in intellect, it would seem like people would be more selfish.
What's a "pro-human solution"? Could you give an example of a pro-human solution vs. a non pro-human (anti-human?) solution?
An example of a pro-human solution would be to empower ourselves and others to take care of our health and support others in doing so. An example of an anti-human agenda or "solution" is to try to centralize power in the hands of a few people for them to decide what "treatments" people should take whenever and for whatever reasons they decide to.
But there is no big deal in that, right? We can always vote on the good people to be in power and decide for all? Or the good people will be corrupted, threatened or, if both tactics fail, killed because the not so good people are the ones that have no problem to take such actions to take that power for themselves? History is full of people in positions of power being assassinated. Where there is power over others to grab there will always be people to take any measures at their disposal to take use of that power. So I would say: power to the people! Power to the individual. Only an empowered person can look for solutions that really take into account others. But this power would need to have of course one rule that would be enforced by the rest of the community: to do no harm. A rule that could only be over-ruled in a clear self-defense situation.
You can see more about anti-human agendas or "solutions" here:
https://corbettreport.com/interview-1807...
https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/tec...
And pro-human here:
https://corbettreport.com/?s=Solutions&e...
Final solution was pretty anti-human I suppose.
You mean this: "You seem to be trying to send sand to people's eyes or you simply don't want to look at information with an open mind. So I leave you to it, whatever is your preference."
I speak what I see with no disrespect. If people seem to not be trying to engage seriously on a conversation (I saw a lot of signs of it which I pointed out), I think the best is to move on.
Ah, and more about conspiracy theories and the fallacies that people undertake when trying to shut up other people's ideas by using that term:
https://corbettreport.com/i-am-a-conspir...
https://corbettreport.com/conspiracy-the...
https://corbettreport.com/shutup/
https://corbettreport.com/top-5-conspira...
https://corbettreport.com/solutionswatch...
is that your blog, or
because literally who or what the **** is "corbett"?
Vaccine mandates can be constitutional yes.
Not if passed by the executive without specific delegation for that purpose by Congress though.
The OSHA attempt to mandate them wasn't constitutional.
What is wrong with the above is that during Covid the vaccines (and masks) weren't specifically intended to stop people from getting infected so that they could survive (though the vaccines did reduce the chance of infection and death from infection). The point of mandating vaccines was to reduce the spread of Covid to people who either weren't vaccinated yet or couldn't get vaccinated for medical reasons but would be in contact.
So in situations like hospitals or nursing homes, the people who worked there could infect people coming in for treatment and/or people who were there in recovery. Basically all lawsuits by medical staff who didn't want to get vaccinated for whatever their selfish reasons lost in court.
In schools the point was to help protect the people who could be exposed (especially elderly people) who were not yet vaccinated for whatever reason. edit: another reason for requiring vaccinations at school would be to reduce the spread of Covid outside of schools. In general both of my children prior to covid got infected with some kind of cold or Flu about once or twice a year and I (their elderly parent) got infected once or twice a year as a result.
In the military the point was to limit the spread of infection so if called to active duty platoons and battalions would be ready to rock and roll. The Federal Government won the lawsuits here as well.
Nowadays, yes, having Covid vaccinations be mandatory would mostly only save the lives of incredibly stupid older people who don't believe in vaccines. When I am sick now with or without Covid I wear masks when I am around others to limit the spread of infection. I also get boosted once a year now to also limit the spread of infection as well as protect myself if I do get Covid (again). Regardless of how stupid other people are I choose to reduce the chances of infecting them.
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It's anti-rhetoric: you go for many years with my body my choice, claim republicans want to control women health (and it's true for some republicans) then try to mandate the first vaccine to adults since what, a century? More? Even to adults that don't risk much or anything from that disease? Even a non sterilizing vaccine which doesnt provide permanent immunity?
This is like republicans passing the biggest tax increase in 100 years
Except the purpose of the COVID vaccines were not solely to protect individuals but the medical system at large from collapsing. If anti-vaxxers would have collectively agreed not to seek medical treatment if infected then that would have worked too. That clearly wasn't the case, since 90% of ICU admissions during the deadliest phase of the Delta variant were unvaccinated, even though they represented only 40% of the population at the time.
To not understand this difference is yet another instance of conservatives blinded by their own ideology or lacking any modicum of empathy for their fellow man. Even Milton Friedman, the staunchest supporter of free markets and individual liberties, believed that any scenario where third-parties were involuntarily affected by private behavior needs to be accounted for by imposition of government-imposed mandates/taxes.
Well the protesters are out in Chicago chanting Killer Kamala
Part of me hope it’s ugly but that would be wrong
The irony of lost on Trump supporters is that it would be torture for him to spend more than 5 minutes with any of them in a setting outside of a campaign rally. He much prefers the company of the celebrities who can't stand him.
Need the character name! Komrade Kamala is a name made for an MK character.
Except the purpose of the COVID vaccines were not solely to protect individuals but the medical system at large from collapsing. If anti-vaxxers would have collectively agreed not to seek medical treatment if infected then that would have worked too. That clearly wasn't the case, since 90% of ICU admissions during the deadliest phase of the Delta variant were unvaccinated, even though they represented only 40% of the population at the time.
So wait is the claim that, however far fetched and completly baseless and unplausible a model is, if it shows that commandeering the bodies of people is "necessary" under arbitrary, political assumptions, for national security, then it's ok for democrats?
because republicans could come out with "sorry can't abort because we might need soldiers in the future, recruiting is already too low" to which you can't reply, because is the same model as yours.
And you can't discuss assumptions either, their models say so, published in rightwing journals and peer reviewed by rightwing people.
Get the logic?
if "your body your choice" THERE IS NO EXCEPTION, EVER. If you start doing exceptions, all exceptions work. Absolute rights are absolute. Or not, then the other party can do literally whatever it wants as well
What is wrong with the above is that during Covid the vaccines (and masks) weren't specifically intended to stop people from getting infected so that they could survive (though the vaccines did reduce the chance of infection and death from infection). The point of mandating vaccines was to reduce the spread of Covid to people who either weren't vaccinated yet or couldn't get vaccinated for medical reasons but would be in contact.
So in situ
medical staff mandate unfortunately was constitutional because of how congress wrote the rules. OSHA mandate wasn't.
Fact is the general population attempted mandate (and factual mandate in many blue states) was an explicit choice by government of claiming "your body isn't yours, we decide for what we arbitrarily think is good for others". Which is IDENTICAL to what people do with abortion. They want to arbitrarily decide that the value of the life of the fetus is greater than the woman freedom.
You either create an inviolable right about body autonomy, putting it NEVER ON THE PLATE, EVER , for government to use it, or anyone can always violate it by concocting every bullshit they want, like that vaccinating a 21y in college is paramount to save lives (lol **** everyone who believes that) or that a 1 micron embryo is "human life" at par with actual human beings (lol **** everyone who believes that).
Vaccine mandates for covid are PROOF democrats don't give a **** about body autonomy, like the worst of the republicans. They are ready to take possession of citizens body for what they consider "the greater good". THERE IS NEVER A GREATER GOOD THAN PERSONAL FREEDOM.
Nice! Good work.
So wait is the claim that, however far fetched and completly baseless and unplausible a model is, if it shows that commandeering the bodies of people is "necessary" under arbitrary, political assumptions, for national security, then it's ok for democrats?
because republicans could come out with "sorry can't abort because we might need soldiers in the future, recruiting is already too low" to which you can't reply, because is the same model a
You should familiarize yourself with public health policy and the reasons vaccines for deadly communicable diseases are mandatory in our society. This isn't something new. But it appears to be something that is new to you. Here's a reference to get you started:
