2024 ELECTION THREAD

I think some of that 63% are considering what facebook's zuck recently admitted to (that he and other media sites caved to pressure from one party to block info about hunter's laptop and about covid) which helped get biden elected as cheating. I don't think we can say those people are wrong.

So much of biden's campaign was about how trump didn't do enough to protect people from covid and if some of the stuff that was blocked came to light it would have justify what trump was doing - atleast in the minds of some voters. He said 50+ times on the campaign trail he isn't involved in his family's foreign business deals and I think if the laptop proved he had a lot of dinner and phone calls with a lot of hunter's foreign biz partners some voters would have turned on him.

You think that is how the two sides dividing line is? I think you're proving rick's point.

Let's not forget that pinko also started the EPA.

These days you can add the environment to the very long list of things modern day US conservatism does not want to conserve.

Other things it has deemed no longer necessary is morals, norms, integrity, law, order and basic human decency.

It is long overdue to abandon Trumpism.

coordi, basically the only thing we truly fundamentally disagree upon there is whether lia thomas should be allowed to compete in women's swimming

it's incredibly dishonest for you to paint that as a matter of empathy, especially so that there is a much better argument that you lack empathy for the cisgender women who can't physically compete with a woman who was a man up until the age of 20

thanks for proving my point though, where you happily slander and denigrate fellow liberals for being evil sociopaths because they don't think lia should be allowed to compete with women

this is deeply misleading

polls like this are not done for social sciences but rather for news headlines so they are crafted in a manner to elicit the results that'll grab the most attention

if you were to ask democrats if they thought the 2000 election was stolen the majority would say no but you'd have plenty who would still say yes

however, if you were to ask if they thought gore was the rightful president or perhaps if you thought there were some discrepancies in florida that should have been investigated then you'd get the overwhelming majority say he should have won and/or there were irregularities that should have been looked into before declaring a winner

we even saw this with hillary where she has actually said in televised interviews that the election was stolen from her because she won the popular vote

if 63% of republicans genuinely believed the election was stolen we'd have far greater issues than then sitting by and whining about it on social media

and people also tend to follow confirmation bias (see coordi's response above) and just follow their heart and will happily set aside rational analysis in order to just pursue what they believe in their heart of hearts must be true

for a large segment of the population, people like biden and hillary are effeminate lying cucks who will say anything to get eleccted and they personally loathe them to the point where they'd get up and leave the table if they sat down - for those people, they will believe anything even without any clear evidence simply because they hate them so much that it must be true and those crooked people are just really good at hiding it

watch the new frontline doc on biden (it's amazing)

put together by the very liberal pbs which will want to favor him immensely, it still paints biden as an incompetent lying pos because they are just accurately reporting it - the people the dems have been putting forward post-obama are loathsome disgusting individuals who nobody would ever in their right mind support unless they were ideologues who couldn't stand the idea of a non-democrat in power

again, this is not advocating for trump in the slightest, he's even worse, but he's a lot more admirable than biden because he knows and tells you he's a POS while biden will smugly lie and pretend like he isn't

dave chappelle is great at explaining why trump is so popular amongst so many people

You think someone pays bahbah to post... here?

I would think he would need better material to actually get paid.

Yes the only legitimate rightwing policies are those the left agrees with, we know.

The rest is antidemocratic, against "human decency" , and so on.

It's illegal to disagree with democrats

It’s not 0% .
Or his a troll arguing in bad faith .
Baham ain’t dumb but the stuff he believes in at the level he doesn’t add up .

When baham speak he sounds like hannity and people like that .
They speak good , they try to build some semblance of logical argument but in the end you know they full of $h!t and data show they lie their asses of …
It’s 100% Republican propaganda without a shred of doubts .

Until they change their mind and agree with them.

You don’t think many Qanon shills don’t get paid even tho they use massive amount of horse$h!t material ?

You can just read Phresh's posts and watch the wagons circle around his objectively bigoted view points and see that he was clearly "one of them".

There is no pro trans stance that would ever put up with Phresh's opinions, let alone support them.

You don't have a point. You just live in this world of sophistry where you are never wrong despite making everything up on the spot

No, it is not about left versus right. Any person on the right-wing or conservative is more than free abandon the current ideological leaders of US conservatism.

Not supporting Trump is in no way, shape or form the same as abandoning right-wing politics or conservatism. It is simply a rejection of its current direction.

It's hardly the first political movement to find itself under horrible leadership and demagogues, and it won't be the last.

I can't help but giggle at the thought of the strategists/managers at some conservative troll farm having a meeting where someone is presenting a PowerPoint with their latest list of targets, and a slide comes up: "ah, and now we have the left leaning Politics section of a dying poker forum, with about 20 regular posters who are 95% middle aged men. Need to make sure we get our top guy on that".

Actually, now that I've conjured up that scenario - if he is a paid shill, he is probably the useless guy who gets the shittiest jobs, hence they exiled him here.

notice how he won't actually say what phresh's stance is because it's a lot scarier to just let your imagine run wild with the terrible things he could have said instead of facing the uncertainty that many reading it would believe his views to be quite moderate

notice how earlier when he was calling me a terrible person who lacks empathy it was strictly because i don't think lia thomas should have been allowed to compete in women's college sports - yeah i know, i'm worse than hitler

Phresh doesn't believe trans people exist. He doesn't even think about trans men (women in his ethos), but he thinks all trans women (men in his ethos) are mentally ill abusers who want to do terrible things to women.

Apparently this is a benign opinion to have about trans people

20 regular poster of which 12 can't vote in american elections, and 7 live in states that aren't purple

flailing sophistry

btw, this is exactly why no liberals are willing to engage in that thread anymore

lol, at least you're no longer outright making things up about me and instead just giving opinions

this a huge improvement over your serial lies attempting to slander me where you made things up like "rick said the democratic party is no different than the khmer rouge" and "rick is an evil bigot without any empathy" so looks like we're back on the right track towards being friends again 😀

this is not what he said in the slightest - anyone who cares to see can do so themselves, phresh has perhaps only 10 posts total in that thread so it won't take more than a minute to see what he's posted

Rick and coordi should just get a room and get to the hardcore soaking already. All this foreplay is getting tiresome for the audience.

who's to say we're not just posting this to kill time while waiting for the third party to finally arrive and start jumping on the bed?