[WPT Global] Official Thread

[WPT Global] Official Thread


Hi 2+2ers,

Welcome to the official WPT Global thread!

WPT Global is the real-money online poker business of the World Poker Tour, and we’re about to celebrate our two-year anniversary, having launched in April 2022. After such a short time, we’re already the third-largest online poker room in the world (ranked by PokerScout.com, based on cash game traffic).

We’re joining TwoPlusTwo to share information with you, engage with the community, and answer any questions you might have.

WPT Global is special for a few reasons:

  • Our modern platform has been built from the beginning to leverage AI technology. We use this in two main ways. The first is to protect the games by detecting collusion, bot use, RTA use and other forms of cheating extremely quickly. We have the best Game Integrity tech I’ve experienced in my 19 years in the industry, and a team of around 50 people using it.


  • The second way we utilise AI technology is in managing our ecology. We ensure that games are sustainable and beatable by reserving seats in every game for casual players and limiting the number of seats per table that can be occupied by highly skilled professionals. I’ll go into more detail on this point later, in the below FAQ, but the net result is - we have the softest cash games you’ll find online, and typical win-rates for regs are 5-10x higher than elsewhere. (If you don't’ believe me, just try them and see for yourself).


  • We have had a large liquidity pool from the very beginning, especially in cash games. This is because we partnered with a couple of successful Asia-facing poker rooms to bootstrap their liquidity. Most poker startups face an enormous challenge in growing their liquidity from scratch - this solution allowed us to launch with cash games running 24/7 and it contributes to our soft player pool. Now, WPT Global is a large poker site in its own right and less dependent on the Asia liquidity, and we’re growing our games in US Dollars all the time.


  • There is enormous value on offer - our explicit aim is to pay back more to players via promotions and giveaways than any other site. Check out our current promotions here.


  • Global Spins is our unique twist on the Jackpot SNG concept, with a progressive jackpot and the lowest rake in the industry (5%).


  • As part of the World Poker Tour family, we’re the best place to qualify for WPT events around the world, like the WPT World Championship at the Wynn later this year.

Some of you might remember me and my colleague WPT Global Peter from our previous roles. Many years ago, I was one of the first site representatives ever to engage with the 2+2 community, as the first PokerStars representative in the ‘PokerStars Software Improvement Thread’. Later, Peter and I ran the ‘Official MPN - Microgaming Poker Network...’. You can expect a similar level of transparency and responsiveness here. While I don’t promise to respond to every single thing, no constructive question or criticism is off limits.

I look forward to engaging with you all!

All the best,

Alex Scott
President, WPT Global
(X/Twitter: @AlexScott72o)

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FAQ

You can also read a more general FAQ on our website, here.

What countries is WPT Global available in?

Currently, we have a .com licence and have not entered any regulated markets (although we will start to do so later this year). We’re open to most markets that have yet to regulate, including Canada (except Ontario), Ireland, New Zealand and most of Latin America, Asia and Africa.

We don’t (yet) accept players from the US, UK, Australia, Russia, and most of Europe. If you’re from one of these countries and want to qualify for WPT events then Club WPT might work for you!

See our Terms and Conditions (section 2.5) for more detailed information.

How does the ecology management system work? Do you ban winners from playing at WPT Global?

Our ecology management system is specifically designed so that we can run sustainable games without having to penalise winners.

In cash games, our AI technology measures the skill level of every player and predicts their win rate. The model is highly accurate and continually updates so that it cannot be abused or ‘gamed’.

We reserve a number of seats at each cash game table for players that fall into one of our ‘casual player’ categories. In our most popular game (8-Handed NLHE with an ante and a straddle) we reserve six of the eight seats for casual players, which effectively means that highly-skilled pros can only occupy two seats.

Because there is plenty of liquidity, if you find yourself categorised as a pro, you can still always find a game to play at any stake, and you can guarantee yourself a seat in a great game if you start a table, since our ecology management system ensures that only one other pro can sit with you.

The system does not categorise players by their actual win rate, but by how skilled they are. If you have a great run of luck, you will not necessarily be categorised as a pro, and vice versa, you will not necessarily be categorised as a casual player if you run bad.

We find that once players get used to the system, they love it. Both pros and beginners have a better experience because we eliminate some of the common predatory behaviour that occurs elsewhere, and pros can achieve significantly higher win rates. I encourage you to give it a try!

What’s with the games in CNY currency?

Because we partnered with Asia-facing poker rooms to launch, some of our games are in Chinese Yuan (CNY) currency. At the time of writing, the exchange rate to the dollar is about 7.25 CNY to the USD. As we’ve become less dependent on the Asian liquidity we have introduced more USD games. Most cash games and all tournaments including Global Spins are now available in USD, and for those of you that want to play in the CNY games, there’s a handy currency converter in the lobby, and the ability to change the stacks to BB.

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Edit/MH: WPT Global Peter

15 April 2024 at 09:31 AM
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by sanders89 P

im looking for the rng third party independant certification where can i find it?

https://www.pokernews.com/wpt-global/#wp...


WPT Global is licenced in Curaçao by Gaming Services Provider N.V. and its RNG (random number generator) is independently certified by Gaming Laboratories International (GLI).

When you reach the website above scroll down to "is it safe to play on WPT Global?" the above info is there.

Hope that helps, it is on their site too near the bottom right of screen where additional info is.


by MarkDavis P

https://www.pokernews.com/wpt-global/#wp...


WPT Global is licenced in Curaçao by Gaming Services Provider N.V. and its RNG (random number generator) is independently certified by Gaming Laboratories International (GLI).

When you reach the website above scroll down to "is it safe to play on WPT Global?" the above info is there.

Hope that helps, it is on their site too near the bottom right of screen where additional info is.


thanks.. if AI can manage the player pool i think it can manage a RNG in a way to give more chances to recreational players.

we saw how far they can go for their players pool ecosystem, it wouldnt surprise me.


I cant find the cash games leaderboard "hand race draw" under promos anymore? have they been removed?
I i remember correctly You could win up to 2000 dollar and there was a draw each week and you had certain amount of tickets based on how many hands and what stakes you played.


My account has been locked for over 12 days because it’s under review. I don’t use any HUDs or cheats, and my account still has money in it. I was told to wait until the review is finished, but I haven’t been given an exact time. If you don't want me to play on this site, just refund my money. It's funny because this is the first time I've had this problem.


There's a bunch of tournaments with 110$ or 330$ mtt seats ''included'' for all players on the final table, this is already a bit weird in my opinion to use the guaranteed prizepool to force MTT tickets but the cherry on top has to be when I see it's for a 110$ crazy sunday mtt being played at 4h30 AM eastern time and not simply a 110$ sunday slam ticket or just any 110$ mtt. I don't think i have the strenght to put alarm clock at 4h30 am, rip ticket


by popers P

There's a bunch of tournaments with 110$ or 330$ mtt seats ''included'' for all players on the final table, this is already a bit weird in my opinion to use the guaranteed prizepool to force MTT tickets but the cherry on top has to be when I see it's for a 110$ crazy sunday mtt being played at 4h30 AM eastern time and not simply a 110$ sunday slam ticket or just any 110$ mtt. I don't think i have the strenght to put alarm clock at 4h30 am,


This!!
I have already 3 tickets for this, that will just expire, because I can never play at the time the tournament runs


My account got blocked for around 2 weeks, after that you guys demanded me to verify my address, a short video shows where I live, log in my account using my frequent used device. And then, after another week just for that verification, u guys ask me to provide a recorded session for 3 hours playing ?!!?! Is this normal? After this, if u guys couldn't nick pick any faults from my side, are you guys asking me to take a video of eating and sh*tting to show that I'm normal human or what?! Not to mention during the whole time, I got no email to inform me about the process, just demands after demands. I'm really disappointed about this whole services of your site.


To give more information about why I'm so pissed, the whole thing happened as:
1. My account got blocked, with no explanation or notice (Okay, I'm fine with that since this's normal). I contacted the security team and got informed that this's just a scheduled check up, where they perform a thorough check. No estimated time or whatsoever, u just have to wait.
2. The check up that they claim as "scheduled, periodic thing" took the whole 2 weeks. And then they demand me to prove my identity by taking a short video where I have to show my face next to the address, and log in the game using my devices (PC + phone) and KYC (which I've completed since the time I started to play on WPTG). I submitted all, and I guessed this should be quick right? Again, how long does it take to just check the video, address and KYC?
3. Turn out that whole process took u guys another week. And, you guys demand me an online interview, where I have to submit 2 180 minutes - videos about how I play and my surrounding, etc. ?! Like what?! Normally I only play for around 1hour - 2 hour session and now u guys force me to play 3 hours just to show that I'm not cheating? When I asked if I can do multiple videos of 1h-2h sessions then you guys replay with " I'm just the customer service, you have to do whatever we ask" attitude?

I've been playing for more than 6 months, almost 100k hands in micro/low. Never use any hud/tools or cheat or teamplay or multi-account under any means. I believe your "thorough check-up" should show the same thing. And now all of that demands just seems like a way to tell me to "*&% out" with more and more ridiculous demands one after the other.

Through out the whole process, I never got any apologies for all of this time-consuming and inconveniences experience to me as a regular user.


I was informed today by my agent that from tomorrow there Will be a 10% from cashouts
I Guess this Is It for the site.


by groede P

I cant find the cash games leaderboard "hand race draw" under promos anymore? have they been removed?
I i remember correctly You could win up to 2000 dollar and there was a draw each week and you had certain amount of tickets based on how many hands and what stakes you played.

yeah I cant find it also...

That was a really nice promo, whats happening with that alex?


by JaNdRo27 P

I was informed today by my agent that from tomorrow there Will be a 10% from cashouts
I Guess this Is It for the site.


cant be true, looks like a troll post


I'm european and I got informed that this could be only for our pool. Today, since they gave us no advice, we were allowed to cash out with a 1% fee instead of 10%.
I Wish I was trolling honestly


by sanders89 P

thanks.. if AI can manage the player pool i think it can manage a RNG in a way to give more chances to recreational players.

we saw how far they can go for their players pool ecosystem, it wouldnt surprise me.


it would be very easy to do with AI, AI tag you as a pro then "if pro play against whale, give pro 3.5% less chance of flopping a pair, hitting a flush, backdoors, etc and do opposite for the whale"

Theres no limit to what AI can do.


You forgot about insurance.
If you play long enough, you can easy see, if players all in pre or flop, turn card give the underdog more outs more than 50% time.
One more thing I can say, if have new player in pot, usually this hand will make a big pot with setup.


by JaNdRo27 P

I was informed today by my agent that from tomorrow there Will be a 10% from cashouts
I Guess this Is It for the site.

I thought there would be someone else posting this info here but 24hours later no one rampaging on this thread yet, I'm surprised


by JaNdRo27 P

I thought there would be someone else posting this info here but 24hours later no one rampaging on this thread yet, I'm surprised

If I had to guess, I'd say you're agent is probably pulling some shenanigans.


by H0twatercl0ck P

Fairly new to WPT_Global and ran into an issue I think is new for me. Not sure if I've played in the past with other sites open so I can't confirm this as recent.

When I have DriveHud2 open for games on WPN/Pokerstars where it is allowed. I can open WPT and pass the fairplay check. When I go to register or sit at a table I am then hit with a warning about using a HUD (paraphrased) .

I am in no way trying to use the HUD for WPT games, and in

You can use a HUD while playing on other sites as long as that HUD doesn't work with WPT Global. All reputable HUD developers know that we don't allow HUDs, and don't support us. A few unethical developers, such as the DriveHUD developers, have tried to bypass our restrictions, and therefore these tools are blocked.

by sanders89 P

im looking for the rng third party independant certification where can i find it?

https://access.gaminglabs.com/Certificat...

by sanders89 P

thanks.. if AI can manage the player pool i think it can manage a RNG in a way to give more chances to recreational players.

we saw how far they can go for their players pool ecosystem, it wouldnt surprise me.

Of course, this is theoretically possible, but we would a) never try it - we don't need to; b) never get away with it. You can see in this thread the level of scrutiny we come under.

by mngueki P

My account has been locked for over 12 days because it’s under review. I don’t use any HUDs or cheats, and my account still has money in it. I was told to wait until the review is finished, but I haven’t been given an exact time. If you don't want me to play on this site, just refund my money. It's funny because this is the first time I've had this problem.

by Kick4ss P

My account got blocked for around 2 weeks, after that you guys demanded me to verify my address, a short video shows where I live, log in my account using my frequent used device. And then, after another week just for that verification, u guys ask me to provide a recorded session for 3 hours playing ?!!?! Is this normal? After this, if u guys couldn't nick pick any faults from my side, are you guys asking me to take a video of eating and sh

Apologies for the inconvenience, in rare cases it is necessary to conduct such reviews, although it's very rare for them to take this long. Please respond fully, promptly and honestly to the questions that our security team asks. Thanks.

by groede P

I cant find the cash games leaderboard "hand race draw" under promos anymore? have they been removed?
I i remember correctly You could win up to 2000 dollar and there was a draw each week and you had certain amount of tickets based on how many hands and what stakes you played.

This promotion ended on the 15th September, but we're working on something new and improved, coming soon.

by JaNdRo27 P

I was informed today by my agent that from tomorrow there Will be a 10% from cashouts
I Guess this Is It for the site.

This is nothing to do with us.


Why after the update the cards (deck) is smaller and uglier?


by WPT Global Alex P

This is nothing to do with us.

So let me get this clear please Alex:
My agent says that WPT global Is divided in "continents" Networks
And since the European players are winning too much now they Will have to pay a fee for their cashout (10%)
I was allowed to cashout with a 1% fee since It was the last day and I had been told only 24hours before, so I don't have any good reason to think I'm being scammed
Any comments on these statements?
When u Say "WPT global has nothing to do with this" does It mean that certain decisions are taken "above" you?

Thanks


by JaNdRo27 P

So let me get this clear please Alex:
My agent says that WPT global Is divided in "continents" Networks
And since the European players are winning too much now they Will have to pay a fee for their cashout (10%)
I was allowed to cashout with a 1% fee since It was the last day and I had been told only 24hours before, so I don't have any good reason to think I'm being scammed
Any comments on these statements?
When u Say "WPT global has nothing t


Lolz, your affiliate doesn't get anything from you (I mean 0% rakeback cos u are winning) and he can see that you are winning, so he wants a piece 😃


by JaNdRo27 P

So let me get this clear please Alex:
My agent says that WPT global Is divided in "continents" Networks
And since the European players are winning too much now they Will have to pay a fee for their cashout (10%)
I was allowed to cashout with a 1% fee since It was the last day and I had been told only 24hours before, so I don't have any good reason to think I'm being scammed
Any comments on these statements?
When u Say "WPT global has nothing t

Absolutely none of this is true.


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Alex, mind explaining the change for the graphic?

It was not pretty already, why did it get worst? those careds look awful now


by garnouille P

Alex, mind explaining the change for the graphic?

It was not pretty already, why did it get worst? those careds look awful now

same, it made me a little harder to see the cards, cost the energy to play the game.


by garnouille P

Alex, mind explaining the change for the graphic?

It was not pretty already, why did it get worst? those careds look awful now

Obviously the intention was the improve the appearance of the cards - they look good on my system, could you please share an image of how they look for you?

Thanks

Alex


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