Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread

Politics and Society Moderation Discussion Only Fans Thread

Hello everyone. I've closed the previous mod thread, and opened this to capture all issues related to moderation policies and actions going forward. I'll kick it off by reposting my intro post from the other thread. Again, I'm happy to be here and look forward to hearing from you.

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Hello everyone.

I'm very pleased to have the opportunity to serve as a moderator in Politics and Society. I asked for this position because I believe we are experiencing a polarization in our politics and society unseen since the 1960s. We may well be at a juncture from which we will either make great progress or suffer great setbacks in regards to our democratic foundations and civil rights over the next few years. So I believe it is important to maintain a forum for discussing these important topics. When the other mods had to step back a bit due to their real life time obligations, I asked to join the mod team to help keep the forum going.

I have not followed this forum in the past, though I have been reading through threads the last few days and made a few posts. This has allowed me to get a sense of the initial impression the forum likely makes on new readers who are deciding if our forum is a place they would like to visit regularly and participate in. While I see some familiar names from the live poker forum, many of you I have not had any interaction with to date. I have no preconceived notions of anyone's posting behavior and will essentially start from a clean slate.

I will shortly post more about my modding approach and give my initial impressions of the forum based on my observations over the last several days. I will be soliciting your input on things you like about the forum that you want to remain, and things you don't like that you would like me to change. Your candid input and feedback is very important to me. Especially, please don't hesitate to let me know if you think a policy or a proposal is a bad idea. I'd rather hear it before it goes into effect than after.

My overall modding principle is simple: Be Nice. Disagreement need not be disrespectful, and everyone must be treated with respect. Calling a poster derogatory names or hurling snarky insults never usefully advances a discussion. It just bogs things down and turns off many would be participants. And it's not nice. Don't do it.

My goal is to have a forum where people with a wide variety of opinions along the political spectrum enjoy expressing and debating their views in a spirited manner, free from insults, bigotry and denigrating comments. If you enjoy discussing these important and often polarizing issues in a passionate, yet respectful manner, I look forward to getting to know you and working with you to create a forum people will enjoy visiting and contributing to. You can be as committed, determined and relentless as you like in advocating for your position. Be persuasive, thought provoking and challenging. But be nice.

I want to thank tame_deuces and King Spew for their support in bringing me onboard and for all the time and effort they have put into making the forum better. While I am taking over most of the day to day modding responsibilities, both are retaining their mod status and superpowers, and will be supporting the forum as their availability permits. And I personally welcome their continued advice and feedback.

Again, I am happy to be here and look forward to getting to know you.

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24 December 2022 at 02:15 AM
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by rickroll P

so i guess the lesson here is you can threaten to rape and kill whomever you please on this site and shoot any dogs you please so long as you don't directly threaten to rape or kill a mod or kill the dogs of a mod then you'll be a-ok and at worst just get banned from posting under your old account

They probably have some legal obligation to report credible threats.


by Luckbox Inc P

They probably have some legal obligation to report credible threats.

yup

which again, is why this is a freeroll for 2p2 and makes zero sense to not report

report it, lets the cops decide if he killed those dogs or poses a threat to others


by Luckbox Inc P

Time to free Lagtight for the new year.

And yeah that doesn't make any sense. We wouldn't ban someone for using the word sapphite so sodomite should be good as well.

It's very disingenuous to say he was banned simply for the use of the word sodomite.


by ganstaman P

It's very disingenuous to say he was banned simply for the use of the word sodomite.

more disingenuous than downplaying lirva threatening to kill and rape multiple people and admitting to raping children and killing dogs?

i like how discussion of this forum's failure to act on lirva is met with a "stfu rick"


by rickroll P

more disingenuous than downplaying lirva threatening to kill and rape multiple people and admitting to raping children and killing dogs?

i like how discussion of this forum's failure to act on lirva is met with a "stfu rick"

NVG and IP and POG and a bunch of other subforums failed to act as well. Probably because he didn't post the offending material there.


How do we know he shot someone's dog? Does the owner of the dog post here or is there a youtube video of it that shows what to be lirva being the shooter?

For starters, I'd safely assume that a lot of posters on the internet exacerbate their own lives plus the fact that internet addiction is rampant with compulsive lying, same with gambling.

If I had to guess, this whole act is an attempt for him to break free this place that he knows is destructive to him and is going out in lirva fashion.


by formula72 P

How do we know he shot someone's dog? Does the owner of the dog post here or is there a youtube video of it that shows what to be lirva being the shooter?

For starters, I'd safely assume that a lot of posters on the internet exacerbate their own lives plus the fact that internet addiction is rampant with compulsive lying, same with gambling.

If I had to guess, this whole act is an attempt for him to break free this place that he knows is d

Probably the simplest explanation in this case although it's probably a lot closer to him actually killing dogs than you think.


by Luckbox Inc P

Probably the simplest explanation in this case although it's probably a lot closer to him actually killing dogs than you think.

Yeah, he might be a litter further than that be he's still a middle aged person now who alive and not incarcerated posting on the net.


by rickroll P

more disingenuous than downplaying lirva threatening to kill and rape multiple people and admitting to raping children and killing dogs?

i like how discussion of this forum's failure to act on lirva is met with a "stfu rick"

1) lagtight and LirvA are 2 separate topics, so I don't know how to compare the disingenuousness.

2) this isn't a Politics Forum issue. You've told Bobo how you feel, and he's alerted the site owners. I'm not telling you to stfu, but maybe telling people who can do something (eg an ATF post or a PM to someone) would be more reasonable and useful. We've been over this before, but the subforums are not all linked. Telling us in Politics what's happening in OMGx3 doesn't really make sense.


you're more upset about lagtight being casually referenced than a member of this forum talking about raping and murdering other members of the forum


by Luckbox Inc P

Probably the simplest explanation in this case although it's probably a lot closer to him actually killing dogs than you think.

or you know do the very obvious and simple solution of calling up his local jurisdiction and asking if they've been investigating anyone for shooting dogs


by rickroll P

you're more upset about lagtight being casually referenced than a member of this forum talking about raping and murdering other members of the forum

Why do you think that? I responded to a post about lagtight because it was unaddressed, and it's about moderation in the forum I'm a mod. I didn't, at least today, respond here about LirvA as Bobo's already said what needs to be said. You have no idea what I care about or am upset about.


by rickroll P

or you know do the very obvious and simple solution of calling up his local jurisdiction and asking if they've been investigating anyone for shooting dogs

I agree that that's the responsible thing to do. But if 2p2 management did do that, the responsible thing is also going to be to not advertise that fact.

He has posted enough personal information for you to be able to figure out exactly where he lives if you're so inclined.

*ETA...was super easy. It's Edmond, Oklahoma, a suburb of OKC. No reports of dogs being killed there. And he might not actually live there but he posted pictures from there.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...


by ganstaman P

Why do you think that? I responded to a post about lagtight because it was unaddressed, and it's about moderation in the forum I'm a mod. I didn't, at least today, respond here about LirvA as Bobo's already said what needs to be said. You have no idea what I care about or am upset about.

i can only infer from what you post, you've only posted about lagtight

i have had pms with people - they've been brushed off with "lirva is a good guy and just trying to defend himself"


sa summed it up best

by ScreaminAsian P

this the dangerous thing. the guy is imagining he's being attacked when he's not being attacked in any way. so this is a deranged person spinning out and making threats with guns. it's a way different situation than if we were all discussing like, "hey how do you secure your home from burglars and stuff?" which is how max seems to be interpreting the comments

so obviously i'm going to continue calling attention to it until people who are in a position to act understand that this wasn't "if you want to defend yourself this is how it's done" kind of post but rather a "you guys are coming at me and i'm going to rape and murder you all"


by rickroll P

so obviously i'm going to continue calling attention to it until people who are in a position to act understand that this wasn't "if you want to defend yourself this is how it's done" kind of post but rather a "you guys are coming at me and i'm going to rape and murder you all"

I completely agree with you and think you should keep bringing it up, just not here. As much as you don't believe us when we said this before, each subforum is independent. Posting in Politics about what happened in another subforum or as a way to message the site owner just doesn't work. There is a subforum dedicated to things like this: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/ab...


i'm mostly mad with jmitch for his cover up, most people are wholly unaware to the extent of the crazyness of his recent threats because jmitch carefully trimmed vast sections of it out- which i feel is a major factor in people like max failing to act - max clearly saw the edited version - otherwise there's absolutely no way anyone with any grasp of the english language could view that post as a declaration of self defense, which is how max interepreted it

and i really don't care about subforums, this is where the eyeballs are, it's already gotten attention, it'll continue getting attention here - posting someplace new in a quiet corner will just help it get ignored


by rickroll P

i'm mostly mad with jmitch for his cover up, most people are wholly unaware to the extent of the crazyness of his recent threats because jmitch carefully trimmed vast sections of it out- which i feel is a major factor in people like max failing to act - max clearly saw the edited version - otherwise there's absolutely no way anyone with any grasp of the english language could view that post as a declaration of self defense, which is how max

Admins/mods have the ability to see all of the edits made to a post. Whether that happened I have no clue but an edit doesn't render the previous versions invisible.


by rickroll P

max clearly saw the edited version

This is false.


posting this here since max asked me for evidence and this exceeds the dm post length


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first of all, not a single person had threatened him whatsoever - SA describes the situation well

by ScreaminAsian P

this the dangerous thing. the guy is imagining he's being attacked when he's not being attacked in any way. so this is a deranged person spinning out and making threats with guns. it's a way different situation than if we were all discussing like, "hey how do you secure your home from burglars and stuff?" which is how max seems to be interpreting the comments


so he enters the thread with this

by LirvA P

I finally got me a nice tritium watch! Marathon Officer's Field Watch. Much better than the Luminox I was thinking about getting

Tritium is a must have for fooling around outside at night imo, and none of that smart watch internet connectivity and gps tracking bullshit!


watch overlayed on a book about murder and specifically talking about how it's good for being outside at night and nobody can track you - heavily implying it's useful for criminal activity

you can tell by the way he overlayed the watch perfectly that the decision to place it on the book was very intentional


talks about shooting his neighbors dogs here, specifically phrases it as "someone" so it's not a direct confession

by LirvA P

I can't claim responsibility for any felonies on the internet but someone shot two of my neighbor's dogs "with buckshot" and they blame me baselessly and without evidence. The popo came banging on my doors and windows several times and it has started a huge feud with my neighbors. They had a large fire going on their property and I called blue on them and they had to shut it down, shut it down, shut it down ... then the guy came and poured

confesses to being a pedophile and having raped young children, also quotes serial killers and talks about love for a woman who killed a 9 year girl just to see what it was like

by LirvA P

Sorry for the long post! I also apologize to the mods if this isn't appropriate, I just feel it's necessary for me at this point.

Well, it's time that I've made this post. It's been over ten years coming, and I can no longer be the rabbit.


- Ed Kemper


I wanted to let everyone know that I am now in treatment for some really serious problems I've had my entire life, and I wanted to thank the mods and admins of this site for their patience wit

here he admits to shooting the dogs only seen in the edits

by LirvA P

rickroll I'm not gonna engage in your disrepectful nonsense.



more talk about love for the woman who killed a 9 year old just to see what it was like

by LirvA P

I would appreciate you being more respectful. My therapist and I talk about Alyssa frequently. She doesn't share your hateful sentiments at all.

Unconditional love is not a fetish or a paraphilia. I do struggle with a paraphilia, which is what I'm in treatment for. Alyssa is the why I'm in treatment: she gives me the strength to be able to. She is not the what I am in need of treatment for.

Alyssa is a wonderful person, and I love her with al


more talk about using his watch to go prowling at night to do perverted things and have rape fantasies

by LirvA P

Exactly! OK so we're on the same page! Phew! Yes, it's for creeping around at night and doing weird shady **** without using a light and being visible!

Now we're talking bro, now we're talking! I like to go out in the woods in the middle of the night and have incredibly perverted and inappropriate rape fantasies! Now we're on the same page cause you like that too!!

😆

more talk about going out at night and prowling

by LirvA P

This whole thing is making me want to go out and be weird and **** in the night


more references to going out at night and raping

by LirvA P

**** no wonder I've been feeling wolfy and haven't been sleeping. moon was full last night and is still mostly full. swear to god that **** affects me majorly


posting poetry written by a serial killer

by LirvA P

It makes me feel blue
Taking food from the animals in the zoo
Porkchops tonight
Jews are uptight
I gave mine away
It still has a tail
And as for dessert
The cook, that old flirt
Surprised us with mellow
Peach jello.

- Theodore Robert Bundy


vague references to have been out at night

by LirvA P

oh **** me I froze my ****ing ass off


posts about finding cruelty to animals funny

by LirvA P

lmao this irl friend of mine that I went to school with is locked up for cruelty to animals. He put a rubber band around the testicles of a german shepard and they fell off! lolz

I hit him up but haven't heard back from him yet.


more vague references to feeling like he's up for violence

by LirvA P

I'm feeling violent today

posting picture of serial killer ted bundy

by LirvA P

posting more pics of the girl who killed a 9 year old to see what it was like - that girl is also his avatar btw

by LirvA P

one of many posts which apparently jmitch had deleted


implies he wants to rape the gf of another poster

by LirvA P

I guess I won't say what I wanted to about Luke's girl 🙄

more references to his rape fantasies

by LirvA P

I think rape fantasies can be ok tho, if they're just fantasies. Or consenual rape play with a consenting adult and an established safe word.

I'd use "Frank Zappa!"

woke up wanting to kill people

by LirvA P

Oh **** me Alyssa I seriously woke up in a strangle and stab somebody mood today 😡 😡

I hope you're having a better day than I am

more pics of that killer

by LirvA P

Happy new year to everyone but Luke

peace




then the final outburst

this is all just one thread

admitted to having raped children
admitted to having shot his neighbors dogs
likes animal cruelty
talks about going out on the prowl to rape and kill
talks about raping and killing specific forum members


please, for the love of god report this guy to the local authorities

thank you


by Luckbox Inc P

Is Rickroll more obsessed with Livra than Livra is with Alyssa Bustamante?

no i'm just stubborn and latch onto things

i think there's a very clear and obvious thing that needs to be done here and am not going to cease until it is done


by rickroll P

no i'm just stubborn and latch onto things

i think there's a very clear and obvious thing that needs to be done here and am not going to cease until it is done

I think you can do it now - Luckbox just have you his likely jurisdiction.


by rickroll P

- max clearly saw the edited version -

This was true.... until it wasn't.

The owners of 2+2 have seen the full extent of the recent posts of Lirva.

To think greens or even blues should do anything more than move the info up the chain of command AND advocate for action..... (this is action that has been taken already before you stuck your nose in it)

(like do you REALLY feel that a green or blue is responsible to report this to OBI ??)

lol on you then.


by King Spew P


(like do you REALLY feel that a green or blue is responsible to report this to OBI ??)

Only if they are interested in doing the due diligence necessary to avoid a potential lawsuit.


by rickroll P

so i guess the lesson here is you can threaten to rape and kill whomever you please on this site and shoot any dogs you please so long as you don't directly threaten to rape or kill a mod or kill the dogs of a mod then you'll be a-ok and at worst just get banned from posting under your old account

The lesson is you are asking the wrong people


by rickroll P

posting this here since max asked me for evidence and this exceeds the dm post length


Did you dm max to tell him you posted it here?


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